I don't have any statistics to support my "gut feel" but it doesn't seem that Moonee Valley form holds up at other tracks, especially Flemington.

Is it because most MV form is at their night meetings and the class of race is lower than the normal Saturday meeting. Also with MV being a tighter track horses seems to be more track specialists.

Are there other tracks were the form doesn't hold up?

Hi Try Try Again,

It has a lot to do with the different Strathyr Suface, the tight cambers and the short straight. Indeed it is a completely different track to Flemington with it's wide cambers and long straight.

I'll often disregard a poor performance at the Valley if a horse has shown a liking for Flemington or another such track.

I generally only back horses if they have performed admirably at the Valley previously.

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Thanks TheSchmile,

Have to agree it would pay to forgive a poor performance at MV if the horse has shown a liking for today's racetrack.

Maybe we can forgive Chile Express (Flem R8#1) on Saturday who finished 9 of 13 at MV last start (24/11/12) after placing 2nd to Lord Brazil at Flemington at its previous start. It is now 4th up from a spell and should be fit.

I reckon that skewiff results at MV have a lot to do whether it's a day or night meeting - personally I wouldn't touch the night meetings there with a barge pole, the same with Canterbury, but have no such reservations with MV day meets.

That said it is very much a horses for courses track, so if you find one that goes ok there it can be worth following.

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The Sportsman formguide lists each horses night racing stats, which I always check before investing.

The horse General Truce has a superb record at night at the Valley for instance,
Placed 4 from 4 tries with 2 wins to boot.

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Whilst the tracks each have very different characteristics, the winners aren't mutually exclusive. BELCENTRA won by 6 lengths at the Valley then two weeks later won by 6 lengths in a Listed race at Flemington.

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Mooney valley is a Leaders track but swoopers can win if enough speed is on because the straight is hard on runners with its uphill incline to the post, if a runner is due to have an ordinary run, he definitely will at the Valley given the circumstances so best to forgive what seems to be a shocker, if the runner can't get close enough to the leaders, the jockey is not going to try to hard I would think, saving the runner for its next race.

Remember Green Moons run seem to be a shocker and most punters didn't forgive the run, but he had some hard racing before the Valley and had his ordinary run.

To win with a fast pace you would probably need to peaking like Ocean Park did.

Just my thoughts.