Let it go Crash, not worth it!

I'm going to do just that. My initial intention with this thread was to improve punting knowledge, not to create controversy.

Maurice this site does not sell any racing package memberships. Moderator 3.

I apologize for not being clearer Moderator3, i was referring to the phrase catch22 and general forum rules regarding deletions and discretionary powers etc and i am not sure what a "racing package membership" is.

Is there such a wide variation? Has it not always been like this?

Form from slowly run races.

Lets look at Sandown and compare two 1200M races:

The Open 1200M hcp won by Signor Socks (R.6), and the 2YO 1200M won by Denamn

The Open was actually a litle slower than the 2YO 1200 (R.3) The first 600 for the 2YO was 39.2secs, but the first 600 for the Open race was nearly a second slower!

My clock said 1:15.60 for the 2YO race and 1:15:72 for the Open race. So the last 600 for the open race was a bit faster. Big deal.

There should be about 6 lengths, or 1 second (correct me if I'm wrong) between 2 year olds and open races. Give or take. So, the open race was waaaay slower, when taken into consideration.

The faster run 2YO race was won by the predictable favorite Denman. Even I won on that.

The slow Open race was run by an unlikely leader/winner. But oh yeah, there was In The Shadows and Silky Smooth trying to run down the sit and sprint run of Signor Socks in the last 200. Congrats to Yendall for getting away with it.

But where was the pressure from the better horses earlier on? Moreso In The Shadows who was closer to the lead in the first 600 but never put any pressure on in what was really a dawdle.

IMO, the jockeys on better horses primed in the Open race allowed tactics to beat them.

Yeah I reckon those following Yendall expected his ride to fall in a heap - and got caught napping.

Both races were VERY slow. 1.10 [Record for Sandown is 1.07.74] would be a reasonably quick race over 1200m on a good or dead track, but 1.15? That's about 30 lengths outside a decent time and over 40 lengths outside the track record! Was the track a heavy 9 or something?

A heavy 10, I think.

I'll try and find similar conditions at Sandown and get back on that one. I ditched record times as a comparison because of the conditions and tried to find a comparison between races on the day.

Postscript: Avdulla must have learnt his lesson because he got up a lot closer to the lead with Greatwall Of China in the last.

I'm still trying to nut out wet days.....

Moonee Valley 8 June Kindrate 1:17 for 1200 on a Heavy 10.

1200m RECORD

16.09.06

Miss Andretti

55kg

1-09.29

GOOD3

4.34

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