I only bet on Saturdays so I'm not too bothered.

The basic contenders this system finds seem very solid. Theres plenty of clay to work with. Feel free to play around with new filters. I have a 3rd variant I use, but I'll keep that close to my chest for now I don't know if I trust it fully yet, but the results are good.

I find it weird that looking for a horse to be a proven on pacer with more than one recent 1-4 pos doesn't improve the results, but it seems to be the case.

A good example is the winner of R7 in Syd. De Dozen Stars. $15 winner. 4 wins from 11 starts & a proven on pacer. It did'nt pass my weight & days rules for this system. But it definately fits the profile of horse I'm looking for, and may have been a winner for someone else using different filters.

Hi raven,
"De Dozen Stars". was a pick for some (many?) I suppose because it's
a proven first up horse and a good on the track performer. I personally don't put too much faith in either of those.

The <= 4 criteria is definitely no advantage at all.

Since I'm not interested in this and you have your system worked out, I won't bother posting the selections.

Good luck

Sorry,
I meant to say it's easy to follow the rules by the newspaper form guide, but if anyone at all is interested, I can post it, it only takes me a couple of minutes.
There are no selections for today, actually only met. or quality prov. races will have any qualifiers.

Good luck

Iomaca
Hello
Please post. It makes a good exercise
Regards Beton

For tomorrow there are two selection:

Ipswitch race 6 No. 2 Strap Theory. *
Geraldton race 3 No. 4 Stalik Lass **


* fully qualified according to the rules.
** missing the position at the turn rule

Good luck

For tomorrow

R: 4 ASC1812 10 Dempsey *
R: 7 DOO1812 5 Informality *
R: 1 FLE1812 4 Lucky Eighty Eight * (2000 M, not sure if rule is <= 2000 or < 2000) ***
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R: 7 ASC1812 8 Gotham City **
R: 6 DOO1812 15 Deer Valley **
R: 7 DOO1812 10 Age Of Heroes **
R: 2 FLE1812 4 Ballet Point **
R: 7 FLE1812 7 Belgietto **
R: 6 MOP1812 7 About Me **

* fully qualified according to the rules.
** missing the position at the turn rule
*** also re. weight? <= 56 or < 56?

Stalik Lass not an on pacer looking at R&S detailed form.

I had a few bets tonight:

Syd R3/6 Sage of Omaha & R3/8 Surge Draw both qualified with my liberal interpretation of the on pace rule. No luck. Also Syd R7/4 Inherited, not a sytstem pick but ridden by Nash.

In MV tonight, R3/3 Moulin Bleu & R6/6 Save a Penny are picks from my apprentice system. No luck as yet.

As for the weight rule lomaca, 56kg should be ok as well. Very frustrating in some races where there is no runner with less than 56kg. Again you can include them and apply another filter, etc.

Sorry, I used the wrong expression, when I said "** missing the position at the turn rule" I should have said it is "NOT qualified as an on pacer", but qualified on all other rules, will make it clear in the future.

I think this is really best followed on Saturdays or feature race days.

So far I have done no experimenting, but you have two solid rules in there which I already use in my rating, but not exactly the same way.

I am thinking of a way to make it work on week days and hopefully for the place as well.

If I have time and come up with something I post it, in the meantime others can use it as a starting point, with sound rules like these one can't go too far wrong.

I found only a few prov. track winners even on Saturdays so maybe they should be left alone.

Good luck

"** missing the position at the turn rule"
this should read as
"NOT qualified as an on pacer"
meaning that one of the rules is not met.

Good luck