"Id like to know what the strike rate and pot would be on highest average prizemoney earners who were not top prizemoney earners? "

Dale

If I read this correctly, you must mean it race by race, where I would have to exclude the top PM earner (not API), then select the highest API horse and see what the S/R and POT would have been?

Am I correct?

It can be done but would be a bit slow to run because one would have to practically re-rate past races. Should be easier to do it while checking results, day to day.
See what I can do.
Cheers

See post 28

Sorry Dale looks like someone is trying to make it into a race.
Happy to help but can't be bothered entering.

Good luck

Thanks Lomaca and Wesmip1,

I did think it would improve the figures,thanks for confirming.

Cheers.

Hi Stugots,
That 3 lenths was for last start winner that is Place ranked No.1

In other words -
Top plc Ranking
Won LS by 3+ lengths.

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Cheers.

So the system is back the horse with the top place SR?
Or is there another rule to go with this?

If its just the one rule, it showed a pretty bad loss at TAB prices of around 20%.

The year i surveyed a fair while ago it on a database it actually made a profit.
Hence i made it a rule with some filters for a mechanical system with form filters.
Now that i use ratings i haven't revisited it but like everything else may be losing in current times.

With the tote takeout and rounding down of dividends to about 18% and maybe people becoming aware of that years profitability imaybe now overbet.

Would be interested to know the period you surveyed what the s'rate was
and if it remained around the 20-21% mark?.

A book called cosistency published by malcolm knowles several years ago actually made me aware of the profit the first ranked place % made.

I have the book sitting in front of me now it's a 16 page booklet outlying this fact with several pages on how to improve the level stakes profit.

For the life of me i can't find anywhere in the book to say the year it was published.

The front cover has a picture of about 6-7 horse and underneath the
words punting for profit through learning.

If anyone out there has a similiar copy who knows the year it was published
could you please post the details here the same year he published a book called prize money which i also have which may jolt someones memory.

Firstly the important stuff that very few people understand. I don't want anyone to take offense at this but the issue with most punters and I mean 99% of punters is they do not research thoroughly enough (or they don't know how to research properly) They do not understand the mathematics of what they are looking at. If you only understand basic probability then creating systems is not for you. If you understand advanced concepts on distributions, expectations, etc then you are going to have a basis from which you may do well.

Now back to the quote.

Do ratings count ?

I know of one selection filter that has 19000+ selections and makes a level stakes profit (1% to 34% depending on the odds you obtain on betfair).

I know of at least 1 free ratings available on the web that provides level stakes profit with no filters. (approx 2% after 9000+ bets).

I know of another rating system that is showing level stakes profit of 5% after 4500+ bets. (again free on the web)

I know of 1 stat (not a rating) that makes a level stakes profit.
Actually depending on what you use (top one or top few) you get a 1% profit or a 50% profit.

Are these stats and filters known to alot of people. Yes and No. But the stats I use are probably not known in the format I use it so the twist I use will probably remain hidden enough for me to make long term profits. Its worked for quite a few years already.


Now why would I give away my edge. Thats the ludicrus part unless I was going to sell books. (which I am not going to do).

Is this directed at me wes because the 1st pl% that was profitable 10 years ago that still maintains its s/rate but now these days has a lower average dividend is losing which as a straight stat i was unaware of.

When used with my ratings it's still profitable what i didn't know was that by itself it is now unprofitable.

gary,

Not spefici at you. Jsut general info for everyone.

Dale,

It doesn't make a difference. I can run it for you in 20 mins. Got to put my daughter to bed.