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Old 14th October 2011, 10:44 AM
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Thanks very much ixlat0 and beton.

I've noticed over the last 4 days that the 100 rater has gone terribly and was wondering if that is normal or not. Obviously, with those stats, it isn't normal then. DAM!!! I thought I had found something.

Over the last 4 days and taking Unitab prices without anything higher than $15 there would have been 89 bets losing -$31.8. Now while the Betfair prices will most probably be higher, if those selections were laid then I think there still would've been quite a large positive POT (35.7% POT if prices were reversed - which I know wouldn't quite work out with Betfair lay prices).
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Old 14th October 2011, 02:33 PM
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The 100ptrs
If also one of RadioTAB selections

1st 33%SR -15% LOT

2nd 25%SR -13% LOT

3rd 20%SR -17% LOT

Average if in top 3 selections 25%SR -15% LOT

UniTAB prices.

So if using Betfair prices, for an approx 15% greater, which is accounting for commission.
One should approx break even if using Betfair.

That's not a bad starting point, just eliminate 1 selection from 8 races & your in profit by approx +12.5% POT.
Using Betfair prices.
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Successfully lay 1 in 8 races & your miles in front.

Apparently I was reading somewhere that Backing all the 100ptr $20+ shots, shows a profit.
Hi Bhags

If I can be so bold as to ask....what is the S/R and av div of 100ptrs when not a Top 3 radio selection and is it the same for Metro and Country(&Provincial)?

Thanks, can you pls email me at stix _ hotcopper at aanet dot com dot au, might have another query or two, if you'd be so kind

Thanks In Advance
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Old 14th October 2011, 02:35 PM
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Thanks very much ixlat0 and beton.

I've noticed over the last 4 days that the 100 rater has gone terribly and was wondering if that is normal or not. Obviously, with those stats, it isn't normal then. DAM!!! I thought I had found something.

Over the last 4 days and taking Unitab prices without anything higher than $15 there would have been 89 bets losing -$31.8. Now while the Betfair prices will most probably be higher, if those selections were laid then I think there still would've been quite a large positive POT (35.7% POT if prices were reversed - which I know wouldn't quite work out with Betfair lay prices).

My long term average for neural and 100ptr rater method is 29%
Since 16 September it has been 24.5%

Why...damn wish I knew....(swings and round abouts??)...its been very consistent over the past 15mths I've kept records
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Old 14th October 2011, 02:42 PM
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Okay thanks for that Stix.
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Old 14th October 2011, 04:20 PM
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Okay thanks for that Stix.
Dividends down from long term average of $3.1 to $2.8 as well....so lower S/R & lower div's...from my records during last 6 weeks...
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Old 14th October 2011, 11:23 PM
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Counting the last 6 out of 7 days (from last Saturday - I haven't done Sunday yet) the stats I came up with are 132 races with 20 winners. That's a 15.15% SR. These were 100 ratings under $15. I'm not sure if the stats are exactly right but, still, that's pretty bad going or good for laying until they turn around again (although who knows when that will be ).
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Old 15th October 2011, 12:59 AM
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Old 15th October 2011, 08:42 AM
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Thanks AngryPixie. Those stats are just what I was looking for.

It also goes to show that the current run of 100 raters is obviously well below par.

On a side note, when wesmip1 was around I exchanged a few emails with him and the like but haven't heard from him for months (maybe a year) until I got a spam email with malware the other day from his email address.

I wonder whatever happened to wesmip1?
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Old 15th October 2011, 01:02 PM
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I've got some stats for 100 raters from my website.

If you were to Back on betfair :

There were 21320 horse form lines in the database at this point in time.
There were 2153 selections for the System
There were 487 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.62%
There were $1906.81 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-246.19 or a percentage profit/loss of -11.43%

If you were to lay on betfair :

There were 21320 horse form lines in the database at this point in time.
There were 2153 selections for the System
There were 1666 which Lost (did not win race) for the System for a strike rate of 77.38%
You had to pay out $2036.86 but brought in $2045.35 after 5% commission. This means a Profit or loss of $8.49 or a percentage profit/loss of 0.39%

This covered all price ranges.




Same query but Top neural rater and top Unitab Rating (100) :

If you were to Back on betfair :

There were 21320 horse form lines in the database at this point in time. There were 645 selections for the System
There were 189 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 29.3%
There were $545.24 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-99.76 or a percentage profit/loss of -15.47%

If you were to Lay on betfair :

There were 21320 horse form lines in the database at this point in time. There were 645 selections for the System
There were 456 which Lost (did not win race) for the System for a strike rate of 70.7%
You had to pay out $575.65 but brought in $612.75 after 5% commission. This means a Profit or loss of $37.1 or a percentage profit/loss of 5.75%


It should be noted that Backing a selection uses the lower of the available prices. Laying a selection uses the Higher of the available prices.
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Old 15th October 2011, 04:58 PM
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Thanks very much UselessBettor. Very nice stats.

Last edited by The Ocho : 15th October 2011 at 05:01 PM.
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