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Old 14th December 2007, 09:27 PM
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Hmmm, perhaps you should be looking at win betting?
hehe

not soo good on the last few races, just need 1 more on the last 2 to end up ahead as far as strike rate. Tho at a glance one of the place odds was just over $2. So I can "absorb" one loss. To still be ahead or at least break even.

By the way, don't count race 3 even tho my original pick came in. As I scratched it since no 3rd place divvy.

Interim Summary:
3/5
4/6 (if u include race 3).


I didn't pick it according to my system but Spin Queen (6) is race fav at the valley in its race... this is my mates horse and so hopefully it place it doesn't knock out my horse.

Interim Summary 2:
3/6
4/7

All down to the last race

My mates horse held on to win!

I tell you what, you could do worse than to just go place betting on mick price runners

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Old 14th December 2007, 09:59 PM
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Made a late change to Race8
No 3 replacing No 4.

As No 3 is higher rated than no4.
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Old 14th December 2007, 10:19 PM
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Highest rated with a weight of 56.5kg but is not highest rated horse in the race.
Race 1: 4, 1st.
Race 2: 6, 1st.
Race 7: 5, DNP
Race 8: 3 (was 4), DNP
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Highest rated in the race and are 56.5kg or less.
Race 4 10*, 1st.
Race 5 8, DNP
Race 6 5, DNP


Summary
Race 1: 4, 1st. 1.90
Race 2: 6, 1st. 2.20
-Race 3: 8, 1st. 1.70 (not part of my final race selections; maybe i shouldn't have scratched it lol!)
Race 4: 10, 1st. 1.40
Race 5: 8, DNP
Race 6: 5, DNP
Race 7: 5, DNP
Race 8: 3 (was 4), DNP (last LOL!; to be fair something bad happened in the race, think another horse ran into it or something?)

4/8
or
3/7

Will post if you would have broken even or even profitted shortly.
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Place betting, say you bet $10 for a place here is how you end up:
4/8: Outlay $80, Returned $72, Profit/Loss -$8
3/7: Outlay $70, Returned 55, Profit/Loss -$15.

As they say, quit while you are ahead eh?

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Old 14th December 2007, 10:46 PM
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No, I think there could be something in it. Keep experimenting with it. Maybe each way instead of place betting.
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Old 15th December 2007, 10:32 AM
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Flemington 15/12
Race 3: 6
Race 4: 9
Race 5: 5
Race 6: 7
Race 7: 11
Race 8: 3

Side Tips:
Mick Price Runners
Race 5: 3

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Old 15th December 2007, 05:28 PM
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Flemington 15/12
Race 3: 6, 2nd, $1.70
Race 4: 9, DNP (last place)
Race 5: 5, DNP
Race 6: 7, 1st, $7.20 (WIN) $2.50 (PLACE)
Race 7: 11, 2nd, $1.90
Race 8: 3,DNP

Side Tips:
Mick Price Runners
Race 5: 3, DNP

3 for 6

FYI
If betting $10 each way its a profit of 13 vs a profit of 1 for place betting.

It seems when I do pick a horse that places its either the winner or 2nd place.

So maybe bet 10 for a place and 5 for a win? So that if its paying at least $1.50 for a place I get my money back if it places and doesn't win. Or even show a small profit if it pays more than $1.50.

Basically bet for a win half of what you are betting for a place.

If the thetote website allows me to view the odds for past results, I'll calculate how much you will be ahead or behind if you were to each way bet with the aforementioned method.

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Old 16th December 2007, 08:26 AM
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Ballarat 16/12
Race 2: 9
Race 6: 3
Race 7: 4
Race 8: 5
Race 9: 8


Mick Price Runners:
Race 5: 5
Race 8: 5
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Old 16th December 2007, 08:54 AM
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Hi pengo good luck with useing the ratings. I have used them before and found them very good. I believe they are the same ratings that another site (r**cenet) sell , (used to be free). I now they come from Sydney.

Cheers
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Old 16th December 2007, 06:13 PM
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Ballarat 16/12
Race 2: 9, DNP
Race 6: 3, 1st, $4.20 & $1.80
Race 7: 4, DNP,
Race 8: 5, DNP,
Race 9: 8, 1st, $2.50 & $1.40

2 out of 5.


Mick Price Runners:
Race 5: 5, 3rd
Race 8: 5, DNP


If you bet $10 each way for the above (not including Mick Price runners, which is just for my benefit to see how he does) you'd be down $-1.

Will work out how you fair based on the method I've described previously ($10 for a place, $5 for a win) later.

Also one thing to note is that Races 2, Race 8 & Race 9 paid below $1.50 for a place, so might need to tweak my selection criteria to include it showing odds over $1.50 for a place. Based on that, I would have selected only 2 races for today and would be doing better - 1 for 2. Furthermore, I may have to limit it to place odds of $2 or more so that the final odds isn't below $1.50 as it seems if early odds are showing $1.50 or less the final odds depends to be equal to or less than this.

I'll post my overall stats with each way betting method tomorrow (from results to date), as I'm keen to see where I stand

Comments appreciated.

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Old 17th December 2007, 09:50 AM
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Check this out !

Bendigo 13-Dec
Race, Selection, Place, Odds, Return
Race 5 8 1st 6.5 65
Race 7 6 2nd 1.8 18
Race 8 5 dnp 0 0

Moonee Valley 14-Dec
Race 1 4 1st 6.9 69
Race 2 6 1st 9.4 94
Race 4 10 1st 4.1 41
Race 5 8 DNP 0 0
Race 6 5 DNP 0 0
Race 7 5 DNP 0 0
Race 8 3 DNP 0 0

Flemington 15-Dec
Race 3 6 2nd 1.7 17
Race 4 9 DNP 0 0
Race 5 5 DNP 0 0
Race 6 7 1st 9.7 97
Race 7 11 2nd 1.9 19
Race 8 3 DNP 0 0

Ballarat 16-Dec
Race 2 9 DNP 0 0
Race 6 3 1st 6 60
Race 7 4 DNP 0 0
Race 8 5 DNP 0 0
Race 9 8 1st 3.9 39

Winners: 7/21
Placed: 3/21
Total: 10/21

Outlay 420
Return 519
Profit/Loss: +99
Bet System: $10 each way.

Will do up the $5 win, $10 place bet system and post the results later.
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