Hi axledog.
No the stats i post are for everyone maybe some people can use them.

Can't help you with the placings as i use beaten margins rather than
placings as i find this a more accurate guide to a horses performance.

These are part of my selection technique i actually haven't recorded
beaten margins data as you would probably have to put them into groups.

Eg all horses that were beaten say <1.0 or less would then include multiple runners unless you wanted to break it down say( 0.1)( 0.2)( 0.3) etc which
would take forever to get sufficient data and the grouping wouldn't be an exact stat with several runners making up that stat thus giving a false reading.

Last stat winners win around 15% of all races but i don't know 2nd-3rd.

Sorry the above answes iare not more helpful.

Good luck with your system building.

cheers
garyf.

If one wishes to use a data base where one can analyse the top ranked place percentage against winning lengths last start...

You could use GTX cost approx $5000 with everything .
Or
Online System Builder - Free (Google)
Its a brilliant piece of kit it is.


Here's a win method created using that site.
So far 55%SR & 46% POT Sat Metro only.

This is the Holy Grail - believe it or not.
& I will bet that nearly all punters wont use it, because they rather chase lots of bets rather than profit.
Even though its got Holy Grail stamped on the tin & all.
Funny that.

RULES
Sat Metro all tracks

Race No. 1-7

Win Ranking less than 4

Place Rank 1

Dist 1100-2240

Career starts greater than 2

Won LS

LS Margin greater than 3 lngs

Dist Difference to last start -400 to +400m

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Cheers.

hi Bhagwan, going to run this thru my db - could you clarify this filter - seems to be saying 'beaten by more than 3 lengths last start' - Im assuming it would be 'less than 3 lengths'?

not a lot of action Bhagwan so would send me nuts, but I did find that omitting fillies, win% <40% & sp rank >=3 improved it considerably

What may actually be more pertinent is if someone out their with a data base covering every race in aus over the last 12 months could look up the s/rate.

Obviously me and hundreds of others who purchased the book used it in some capacity thus lowering the average dividend to make it unprofitable.

I still use the stat today as a filter unfortunately me going back checking it out would be an incorrect stat as i only would have it listed in certain states race types etc not all races as required.

Would really be interested to know if the s/rate of around 21% still holds up.

cheers.
garyf.

Consistency book published in 1998.

Thanks

Hi Gary, will check the figures when I get home again tonight if someone else doesnt post any up. From memory, yes the SR held up around that mark, but the loss was as mentioned around 20%, that was probably over a years data starting from the middle of last year when I cancelled the test, as I couldnt see it recovering from that loss to be anything worthwhile.

This data appears to be an exact summary of Malcolm Knowles findings on prizemoney and win/place percentages. I have read all his books and have been relying on place % for almost 20 years but now find all the value is gone in recent years. In fact I have kept results for several years and find that on metro tracks the figures are not quite as good as those stated and they now produce a LOT whereas once they produced POT.

Thats exactly correct gunny that's what i was trying to ascertain.

Unfortunately in 2011 the value has now been sadly eroded like the pl%.

The only thing that remains reasonably constant is all the relevant s/rates.

With thorns and stugots back checking it's now 100% clear everything loses.

A sign of the times i guess with so much info now available.