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[ This Message was edited by: La Mer on 2003-10-27 18:21 ]

Hi all,
I dont care who's a champion or who is'nt.
All I know is I followed the thread on the cox plate and it seemed to come out as clanga or foo, I backed them both and thanks to everyone out there for their insight.

Cheers :lol:

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On 2003-10-27 18:43, Chrome Prince wrote:
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On 2003-10-27 18:16, La Mer wrote:

The answer for his defeat is elsewhere such as an inablity to sustain his run.

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La Mer,

I don't believe it was the dead track either, but if you don't believe it was the Valley, how do you account for all Lonhro's wins over 2000m where he could sustain his run in faster sectionals and much faster overall race times than were run on Saturday even on dead tracks.

There can only be one answer as I indicated.

On the sectionals that FOO ran, he will not finish in the first 5 in the Japan Cup.

(Loading up my Betfair account) :grin:

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When Lonhro wins his races his last 600m usually is around 33-34secs, his Cox Plate last 600m would have been around 37-38secs, thats a massive difference even on a dead track.



I cannot honestly believe that any racing fan could forget last years Yalumba where Lonhro ran down Sunline who had set a fair tempo and a 4-5 length lead into the turn and also run around a sub 35sec last 600m over 2000m and beat the wonder mare, if thats not a sustained run then FOO will win the Japan Cup by 10 lengths.




Quite right La Mer i apologize i was actually thinking of a different race altogeher, but it doesn't answer the Cox Plate sectionals.



I totally agree that there are more then a few Group 1 races out there that are Group 2 races at best, but the fact is they are rated Group 1's which makes them on par with the Cox Plate and Caulfield Cups.

If these "Super Races" are better then other Group 1's then should be catoregised as such.

So if you owned a horse that won a Goodwood Hcp you would be going around saying your horse isn't a Group 1 Winner???

it seems everyone except lonhro fans can decipher the difference between a major G1 and a G1.

what 3 races do you think 99.999999'% of the population would most like to win.

I would think it would rank
1. Melb cup
2.cox plate
3. cauf cup

another point of view might be the purist or breeder

1. cox plate
2 golden slipper
3. doncaster

point is - there are majors

On 2003-10-27 15:28, puntz wrote (among other things):
....s1111 and now a s11113....
What I looked at is how long can a horse.......keep getting those 1's

I have done a quick analysis of horses going into a Sat Metro race winning their last 4 races without a spell. I also required their last start to be a Sat Metro race. (I can't specify all 4 last starts to be Sat Metro or I would have)

Results are below.

Cheers,
Chris.

SYSTEM SELECTOR REPORT FOR: 5 IN A ROW 30/11/2001-28/10/2003

Created by Price Predictor at 20:09:43 on 27/10/2003



5 IN A ROW: 25/10/2003 MOONEE VALLEY 

MR 7 # 1 1111 LONHRO                5/1       ????     ????

5 IN A ROW: 18/10/2003 CAULFIELD 

MR 2 # 2 1111 DELZAO               11/2       ????     ????

5 IN A ROW: 11/10/2003 EAGLE FARM 

BR 6 #11 1111 MARTINO              20/1  WON 11.70 PL  3.40

5 IN A ROW: 20/09/2003 ROSEHILL 

SR 1 # 4 1111 SPADING               9/2                    

5 IN A ROW: 13/09/2003 MOONEE VALLEY 

MR 4 # 1 1111 OAMARU STORM         25/1                    

5 IN A ROW: 06/09/2003 FLEMINGTON 

MR 2 #13 1111 SPADING              14/1  WON  4.30 PL  1.80 QN   6.40 EX  21.50

5 IN A ROW: 23/08/2003 DOOMBEN 

BR 1 # 1 1111 WINSOME DANCER        9/4                     

BR 4 # 6 1111 PEKAN LADY           15/8                    

5 IN A ROW: 23/08/2003 CHELTENHAM 

AR 4 # 1 1111 FULL SPEC             5/2  3RD       PL  1.40

5 IN A ROW: 16/08/2003 EAGLE FARM 

BR 5 # 1 1111 MARTINO               5/4  WON  2.00 PL  1.30 QN  12.20 EX  12.80 

BR 6 # 1 1111 STAR OF SEQUALO       9/2  WON  2.70 PL  1.30 QN   9.00 EX  13.50 TT  121.60

5 IN A ROW: 09/08/2003 EAGLE FARM 

BR 8 # 5 1111 MARTINO              11/2  WON  2.80 PL  1.60

5 IN A ROW: 02/08/2003 CHELTENHAM 

AR 2 # 1 1111 ROMAN ARCH            5/4  WON  2.00 PL  1.20 QN   7.00 EX   7.40 TT   25.70 

AR 4 # 2 1111 FULL SPEC             7/4  WON  3.40 PL  1.70 QN   5.30 EX  12.60

5 IN A ROW: 05/07/2003 ROSEHILL 

SR 6 # 3 1111 MASKED                7/2  WON  2.30 PL  1.30 QN   5.90 EX   9.40

5 IN A ROW: 28/06/2003 CHELTENHAM 

AR 6 # 2 1111 SCIATICA             12/1                    

5 IN A ROW: 17/05/2003 MORPHETTVILLE 

AR 5 # 2 1111 SOUND ACTION         8/13  4TH               

5 IN A ROW: 10/05/2003 MORPHETTVILLE 

AR 4 #14 1111 JUG FULL             60/1                    

5 IN A ROW: 03/05/2003 RANDWICK 

SR 5 # 7 1111 BOLLINGER            13/2                     

SR 8 # 6 1111 YELL                  7/1  2ND       PL  1.40

5 IN A ROW: 03/05/2003 MORPHETTVILLE 

AR 6 # 4 1111 YVONNE               25/1                     

AR 6 #12 1111 SOUND ACTION         11/1  WON  3.40 PL  1.80 QN  38.00 EX  54.30

5 IN A ROW: 19/04/2003 RANDWICK 

SR 8 # 2 1111 LONHRO               13/2  4TH               

5 IN A ROW: 19/04/2003 ASCOT 

WR 3 # 7 1111 CATION                5/1  2ND       PL  1.04 QN   4.30

5 IN A ROW: 12/04/2003 CHELTENHAM 

AR 7 # 3 1111 YVONNE               25/1  WON  5.00 PL  2.10 QN   8.70 EX  25.70

5 IN A ROW: 05/04/2003 CHELTENHAM 

AR 4 # 1 1111 IDENTIFIABLE         11/2  WON  1.80 PL  1.30 QN  10.80 EX  12.20 TT   66.70

5 IN A ROW: 15/03/2003 WARWICK FARM 

SR 3 #10 1111 HIGH LIFE            10/1                    

5 IN A ROW: 15/03/2003 FLEMINGTON 

MR 6 # 6 1111 NO DEPOSIT            9/1                    

5 IN A ROW: 08/03/2003 MORPHETTVILLE 

AR 5 # 2 1111 IDENTIFIABLE          5/1  WON  2.00 PL  1.20 QN   2.70 EX   5.30 TT   29.40

5 IN A ROW: 01/03/2003 ASCOT 

WR 7 # 2 1111 MERCURY HALO         20/1  2ND       PL  1.30 QN   5.40

5 IN A ROW: 22/02/2003 CAULFIELD 

MR 7 # 5 1111 BRECON ROSE          10/1                    

5 IN A ROW: 07/12/2002 ASCOT 

WR 8 # 4 1111 BLEVVO               13/4  WON 19.70 PL  4.60 QN  62.30 EX 130.90 TT  743.40

5 IN A ROW: 30/11/2002 ASCOT 

WR 6 # 8 1111 BEAUTIFUL BON BON    11/1                    

5 IN A ROW: 23/11/2002 ASCOT 

WR 8 # 2 1111 BLEVVO               15/4  WON  7.20 PL  2.90

5 IN A ROW: 16/11/2002 ASCOT 

WR 3 # 2 1111 VAIN ZOE              1/2  2ND       PL  1.10 QN   4.70

5 IN A ROW: 09/11/2002 DOOMBEN 

BR 1 # 3 1111 SNEEM                11/4  2ND       PL  1.04

5 IN A ROW: 09/11/2002 ASCOT 

WR 1 # 1 1111 VAIN ZOE              6/4  WON  2.60 PL  1.50 QN  27.20 EX  31.30 TT  251.00

5 IN A ROW: 02/11/2002 ASCOT 

WR 7 # 8 1111 KENTIARA              7/1  2ND       PL  1.40 QN  15.40

5 IN A ROW: 26/10/2002 MOONEE VALLEY 

MR 7 # 1 1111 NORTHERLY             5/2  WON  4.30 PL  1.70

5 IN A ROW: 26/10/2002 ASCOT 

WR 3 # 1 1111 VAIN ZOE              6/4  WON  2.50 PL  1.60 QN   5.50 EX   8.70 TT   16.10 

WR 4 # 1 1111 THOMPSON'S BAY       8/13  2ND       PL  1.50 QN   2.00

5 IN A ROW: 19/10/2002 ASCOT 

WR 7 # 5 1111 ZAHEED               15/1  3RD       PL  1.80

5 IN A ROW: 12/10/2002 BELMONT PARK 

WR 3 # 1 1111 VAIN ZOE             11/4  WON  4.60 PL  1.60 QN  17.80 EX  22.10 TT  110.00

5 IN A ROW: 05/10/2002 FLEMINGTON 

MR 8 #15 1111 GOLDEN DELICIOUS     20/1  4TH               

5 IN A ROW: 27/07/2002 BELMONT PARK 

WR 7 # 3 1111 PERFECT MINX         11/1                    

5 IN A ROW: 06/07/2002 BELMONT PARK 

WR 5 # 1 1111 TUMERIC              11/8  2ND       PL  1.40 QN   3.90

5 IN A ROW: 29/06/2002 ROSEHILL 

SR 8 # 4 1111 OAKFIELD DUKE         6/1  4TH               

5 IN A ROW: 20/04/2002 DOOMBEN 

BR 4 # 2 1111 RAMSTADIUS            9/2                    

5 IN A ROW: 30/03/2002 RANDWICK 

SR 5 # 1 1111 CARNEGIE EXPRESS      9/4  2ND       PL  1.10 QN   2.20

5 IN A ROW: 23/03/2002 MOONEE VALLEY 

MR 4 # 1 1111 DASH FOR CASH        15/8  4TH               

5 IN A ROW: 16/03/2002 ROSEHILL 

SR 4 # 4 1111 KAAPGUN              10/1                     

SR 7 # 1 1111 CARNEGIE EXPRESS      9/4  WON  2.20 PL  1.30 

SR 7 # 2 1111 DON EDUARDO           9/2  2ND       PL  1.60 QN   3.10 EX   6.10 TT   35.90

5 IN A ROW: 02/03/2002 CANTERBURY 

SR 5 # 7 1111 KAAPGUN              11/2  WON  5.70 PL  2.10 QN  29.80 EX  53.60 TT  255.20 FF  1707.70

5 IN A ROW: 16/02/2002 ASCOT 

WR 7 # 1 1111 WHITE FOIL            9/2  2ND       PL  1.60

5 IN A ROW: 26/01/2002 CAULFIELD 

MR 5 # 2 1111 ICE DANCER           16/1                    

5 IN A ROW: 26/01/2002 ASCOT 

WR 8 # 5 1111 WHITE FOIL            3/1  WON  3.10 PL  1.60 QN   3.60 EX   6.90

5 IN A ROW: 29/12/2001 ASCOT 

WR 5 # 2 1111 TRUE AND CORRECT     11/2                    

5 IN A ROW: 15/12/2001 ASCOT 

WR 4 # 2 1111 STAR OF ANGEL         9/4  2ND       PL  1.50 QN   3.10

5 IN A ROW: 01/12/2001 ASCOT 

WR 6 # 3 1111 STAR OF ANGEL        13/4  WON  3.80 PL  1.90



Meetings considered   : 3894

Win Strike Rate/Seln. : 37.9%

Plc Strike Rate/Seln. : 62.1%

Average Win Dividend  : $4.50



                  WIN     PLACE    

Races Bet :      56       56       

Races Won :      22       35       

S.R./Race :      39.3%    62.5%    

Outlay ($):      58.00    58.00    

Return    :      99.10    59.98    

$ Profit  :      41.10     1.98    

% P.O.T.  :      70.9%     3.4%    



If I restrict the races they are going *INTO* to be Listed Class or better, 

then there are only 8 winners from 30 races... A S/R of 26%

[ This Message was edited by: stebbo on 2003-10-27 20:31 ]

Last 15 years since I've been following the races and have come up with this breakdown

Open Aged Champions
Bonecrusher
Better Loosen Up
Horlicks
Super Impose
Schillaci
Octagonal
Shatsbury Avenue
Lets Elope
Doriemus
Might and Power
Sunline
Northerly
Etheral

Elite G1 Horses
Vo Rogue
Naturalism
Stylish Century
Juene
Almmarad
Sydeston
Tie The Knot
Lonhro
Dane Ripper

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On 2003-10-27 16:23, El Gordo wrote:
The old switch-a-roo!, I like it :lol:

Hi ELGORDO,
How the hell do you attach the giff to your signature, I have a ripper I want to use but dont know how to attach it.
Cheers

I can answer that one for you kenchar. It’s all under the FAQ section of the forum.
See “Adding Images” at

http://www.propun.com.au/forums/faq.php#bbcode

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