Why do I shoot 40 stableford points one day and 29 the next??? Probably for the same reason that a good horse bolts in today and finishes down the track at its next start.

The answer to that is "god knows"

Over the past couple of years I have seen dozens of mechanical systems in this forum,all basically the same.Different combinations of the same information perhaps,but really the same old formula worked and re-worked.

Some of them get results some of the time,but none are consistent money makers.

I cant understand my own form on the golf course and I dont have a jockey,barrier draw,,trainer,,etc etc ad infinitum,,,so my chances of predicting what a horse might do at some remote racetrack are pretty slim.

I like punting and make a reasonable fist of it.How ???? Just by following the money trail,,,,it's there,,it can be elusive,but it's there.To win requires patience and experience....Ok ok I'm getting there,,,,,next paragraph......

I think that there is a logical pattern in betting sequences,,they can be difficult to spot,but there is a rhythm to it all..A computer programmer who can capture this rhythm and link it to a TAB race betting fluctuation page will have the key to the vault.In my heart I know it can be done,in reality I dont have the ability to attempt it.

Maybe someone out there has gone down this path.He/she sure as hell isn't going to tell us.

Tiger Woods said that when you go to the golf course make sure you left your emotions back at the hotel under the pillow. No different with punting. Beton

You seem to have half the key to a fortune if you can see a pattern and I have the other half (I can write programs). I've been watching prices pretty closely for only a couple of months but I can't say I've found any definite pattern to speak of. Maybe I'm just not suited to the rhythm method.

KV

KV my old pre-computer brain keeps telling me that a series of transposed and interlocking graphs is the way to go.Its the shadow of an idea,but it's been niggling away at me for ages.

The magnitude of doing it the old pen and ink way just seems to be too great,and as I said my lack of computer skills prevents me from finding a quick way around the problem.

You hit the button right on the head with the last sentence of your first post Syllabus23.

If someone has a "genuine, permanent" winning method they sure as heck would NEVER publish it, NEVER ask money for it and NEVER tell anyone about it.

Hi Syllabus,
I'm currently trying to find a way to log the change of prices minute by minute as a race approaches so that I can sort of replay them and look for patterns. Early stages yet.
If you want to run some ideas past me you can feel free to do so at:
kennyvictor_1047 at hotmail dot com

If you don't feel that way inclined that's all right too. :-)

KV

It's all been done before, over and over and over again............ statistical computer analysis of price fluctuations won't enable anyone to make permanent profits from betting on horses.

Maybe someone has and they just haven't told you about it. :-)

Kenny wrote:
"Maybe someone has and they just haven't told you about it". :-)

Yep, he's the same guy who worked out how to win at tattslotto using a computer. He won't tell us that secret either, but apparently it was a lot easier than his 'winning at the races using a computer method' 8-)

You can only calculate know facts with any mechanical method of selecting winners and there are just a huge heap that aren't known. No-one can ever make a profit by any win selection method [mechanical or not] whether they use their head or a computer, The punter who can consistently recognize a false favorite and take the overs on offer in those races will though.

"No-one can ever make a profit by any win selection method [mechanical or not] whether they use their head or a computer, "

Actually Sir Crash you are dead wrong!!! Now I can't prove zilch so I realize I'm open to mass ridicule, but I felt I had to speak up as you keep pouring cold water on these systems searchers whose task is already painfully hard.

I have well over two years controlled profits thanks to a simple mechanical system, and whats more I ghost run two other very sucessfull systems (though not as reliable I'll admit) just in case some **************o screws my current one up.

System set ups are mega complex and don't grow on trees, but please don't kill the hope we all live on!

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