The Weights were released today for the Caulfield Cup/ Melbourne Cup obviusly there are alot of horses there we are never going to see but it is interesting anyway.

Weights
EMIRATES MELBOURNE CUP 3200 M
Of $5000000 and $100000 trophies. 1st $3000000 and trophies of $80000 to owner $8500 to trainer $8500 to jockey $3000 to strapper, 2nd $750000, 3rd $375000, 4th $200000, 5th $125000, 6th $110000, 7th $110000, 8th $110000, 9th $110000, 10th $110000. Starter Subsidy: $200 for non-prize earning runners. (GROUP 1). No allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 24

No Horse Trainer Wgt
1 KITTEN'S JOY (USA) Dale Romans 59
2 CHERRY MIX (FR) Saeed Bin Suroor 58.5
3 WESTERNER (GB) Elie Lellouche 58.5
4 BANDARI (IRE) Mark Johnston 58
5 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 58
6 POWERSCOURT (GB) Aidan O'Brien 58
7 VINNIE ROE (IRE) Dermot Weld 58
8 PHOENIX REACH (IRE) Andrew Balding 57.5
9 YEATS (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 57.5
10 MARAAHEL (IRE) Michael Stoute 57
11 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 57
12 DISTINCTION (IRE) Michael Stoute 56.5
13 GREYS INN (USA) Mike de Kock 56.5
14 POLICY MAKER (IRE) Elie Lellouche 56.5
15 FIRST CHARTER (GB) David Hayes 55.5
16 SUPER KID (NZ) John Moore 55.5
17 COLLIER HILL (GB) Alan Swinbank 55
18 RAZKALLA (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor 55
19 SIMONAS (IRE) Andreas Wohler 55
20 FIGHT YOUR CORNER (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 54.5
21 FRANKLINS GARDENS (GB) Mark Tompkins 54.5
22 MEDIA PUZZLE (USA) Dermot Weld 54.5
23 EYE POPPER (JPN) Izumi Shimizu 54
24 OSTANKINO (FR) Elie Lellouche 54
25 PLASTERED Lindsey Smith 54
26 SONGLARK (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 54
27 XCELLENT (NZ) Michael Moroney 54
28 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted 53.5
29 NOTABLE GUEST (USA) Michael Stoute 53.5
30 PERLIN (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 53.5
31 SWEET STREAM (ITY) John Hammond 53.5
32 TOSEN DANDY (JPN) Hideyuki Mori 53.5
33 CARTE DIAMOND (USA) Brian Ellison 53
34 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse 53
35 FANTASTIC LOVE (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor 53
36 MAHTOUM Kim Waugh 53
37 SIR DEX Gregory Hickman 53
38 WUNDERWOOD (USA) Lady Herries 53
39 CONFECTIONER David Hayes 52.5
40 KINDJHAL (FR) David Hayes 52.5
41 LOST SOLDIER THREE (IRE) Luca Cumani 52.5
42 STELLA GRANDE Lee Freedman 52.5
43 THIS MANSHOOD Tim Martin 52.5
44 COUNT RICARDO Stephen Theodore 52
45 GREY SONG Tom Hughes 52
46 HUGS DANCER (FR) David Hayes 52
47 MOSCOW BALLET (IRE) David Hayes 52
48 ORPINGTON (GB) Dermot Weld 52
49 SWIFT TANGO (IRE) David Hayes 52
50 AKAREM (GB) Kevin Prendergast 51.5
51 DEMERGER Danny O'Brien 51.5
52 DIZELLE John Hawkes 51.5
53 HOLLOW BULLET John McArdle 51.5
54 LACHLAN RIVER (NZ) John Morrisey 51.5
55 PACIFIC DANCER (NZ) Richard Otto 51.5
56 PANTANI (NZ) Robbie Laing 51.5
57 PORTLAND SINGA (NZ) Neville McBurney 51.5
58 RECLAIM Gerald Ryan 51.5
59 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody 51.5
60 WILD IRIS Guy Walter 51.5
61 ANDEAN (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 51
62 BINDING John Hawkes 51
63 FRIGHTENING Bart Cummings 51
64 MAJESTIC MINSTRELL (ARG) David Hayes 51
65 MANDELA (NZ) Richard Otto 51
66 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards 51
67 ON A JEUNE Peter Montgomerie 51
68 RAILINGS John Hawkes 51
69 RENEWABLE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 51
70 STUDEBAKER (NZ) John Hawkes 51
71 TAILS OF TRIOMPHE Terry O'Sullivan 51
72 BATTLE MAIDEN (ZIM) Grahame Begg 50.5
73 BAZELLE (NZ) Paul Jenkins 50.5
74 CHARNWOOD GREEN Chris Wood 50.5
75 DEVASTATING (NZ) John Collins 50.5
76 DON RAPHAEL Kerry Parker 50.5
77 ENVOY (NZ) Ken Kelso 50.5
78 HIGH ACTION (USA) Ian Williams 50.5
79 MUTAKARRIM (GB) Dermot Weld 50.5
80 PHILOSOPHE (NZ) Jim Conlan 50.5
81 REGAL PUNCH Noel J Doyle 50.5
82 RIZON Cliff Brown 50.5
83 SHE'S JUSTA TAD (NZ) Rudy Liefting 50.5
84 STORMHILL Tim Martin 50.5
85 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings 50.5
86 ZINGAM (NZ) Guy Walter 50.5
87 ACCUMULATE (NZ) Bart Cummings 50
88 ACTIVATION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 50
89 BONDY Tony Vasil 50
90 CEDAR MANOR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 50
91 CROW WOOD (GB) John Quinn 50
92 CUT THE CAKE (NZ) Michael Moroney 50
93 DANCING DAGGERS (NZ) Grahame Begg 50
94 TIMBOURINA Tony Wildman 50
95 UNDER THE BRIDGE Tony Vasil 50
96 ZACIELO (NZ) Peter G Moody 50
97 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 50
98 ZEITGEIST (IRE) Luca Cumani 50
99 ACTION SHOT (NZ) Jim Conlan 49.5
100 ALAANA'S SONG Lyle R Plumb 49.5
101 ALL'S WELL (NZ) Davina Waddell 49.5
102 ARREVIDERCI (NZ) John Wheeler 49.5
103 BEAU Myffy Rae 49.5
104 BEJAYJAY (NZ) Peter Mckenzie 49.5
105 BEN SPARTA (NZ) George Merkulov 49.5
106 BHANDARA (NZ) Guy Walter 49.5
107 BIG PAT Jim Conlan 49.5
108 BLACK TOM Brian Lucas 49.5
109 BRAELOCH (NZ) Gary Portelli 49.5
110 BRAVE LANCER (NZ) Neville McBurney 49.5
111 BUSH HONEY Guy Walter 49.5
112 CARPANETTO (IRE) Bart Cummings 49.5
113 COALESCE (NZ) John Hawkes 49.5
114 COMMAND 'N CONQUER (NZ) Chris Wood 49.5
115 CONCITARE Bruce Swan 49.5
116 DAKASHA Leon Macdonald 49.5
117 DAVIDOFF (NZ) Peter G Moody 49.5
118 DIVINE CONQUEROR (NZ) Neville McBurney 49.5
119 DR LOANE Gary Portelli 49.5
120 DRACAAN (NZ) Gary Portelli 49.5
121 DRUMBEATER Cliff Brown 49.5
122 EMERALD JACK Peter G Moody 49.5
123 EMPYREAL (NZ) Peter Mckenzie 49.5
124 FAIR BIANCA (NZ) Sheila Laxon 49.5
125 FAMOUS DANE Philip Minter 49.5
126 FOORAM (NZ) John O'Shea 49.5
127 FREE AT LAST (NZ) Alan Mathews 49.5
128 FROM HEAVEN (NZ) Ian Shaw 49.5
129 FULL FATHOM (NZ) Kevin Corstens 49.5
130 GREAT BEAR Bart Cummings 49.5
131 GREAT SANDY Aaron Purcell 49.5
132 HAPPY IVOR Ivor Trapman 49.5
133 HEUREKA (NZ) Lee Freedman 49.5
134 HURON Lawrie McArthur 49.5
135 INTERMOO (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 49.5
136 IRISH DARLING Tony Vasil 49.5
137 ISTA KAREEM (NZ) Jeremy Gask 49.5
138 JUST THE PART Darren Weir 49.5
139 KITCHENER Tricia Cox 49.5
140 LANDSDOWN HOUSE (NZ) John Hawkes 49.5
141 LESTER THUNDERWING Ken Keys 49.5
142 LORD ERIN (NZ) Grant Dalziel 49.5
143 LORD OF LORDS Stephen Theodore 49.5
144 LOTHARIO (NZ) John Nugent 49.5
145 LUTALO (NZ) Neville McBurney 49.5
146 MEGABUCKS (NZ) Chris Waller 49.5
147 MEN AT WORK (NZ) John O'Shea 49.5
148 MIXTY MOTION (NZ) Michael Moroney 49.5
149 MR CELEBRITY (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 49.5
150 NO PENALTY (NZ) Lee Freedman 49.5
151 ORANGE FREE STATE (GB) Lee Freedman 49.5
152 OUR DASHING DANE Jason Clifford 49.5
153 PARTY PIE Gerard Moloney 49.5
154 PENTIARA (NZ) Robbie Laing 49.5
155 PUBLICITY STUNT Paul Cave 49.5
156 QUILTER Mark Webb 49.5
157 RAVANELLI (NZ) Murray Matthews 49.5
158 REFUTE Graeme Rogerson 49.5
159 REIGN ON Colin Alderson 49.5
160 REPUBLIC (NZ) Liam Birchley 49.5
161 REQUISITE (NZ) Michael Moroney 49.5
162 RUE THE SAINT Michael Flanigan 49.5
163 RUN RITA RUN Paul Cave 49.5
164 SARRERA Michael Moroney 49.5
165 SENDINTANK (GB) Stuart Williams 49.5
166 SHROGGINET (NZ) Colin Alderson 49.5
167 SIAMUN Tony Vasil 49.5
168 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings 49.5
169 SLEATBANK (NZ) Wayne Walters 49.5
170 SPECIAL SCENE Dan O'Sullivan 49.5
171 SPORTS ACADEMY Danny Curran 49.5
172 STADIUM (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 49.5
173 STATE OF PLAY Kerry Eveleigh 49.5
174 THE BIGHEARTED (NZ) Michael Moroney 49.5
175 THOUSAND VEILS (NZ) Jim Conlan 49.5
176 TINGIRANA (NZ) Jeremy Gask 49.5
177 TINTAGEL (NZ) Colin Alderson 49.5
178 TRIGGERED (NZ) Michael Moroney 49.5
179 TSZYU Kevin Corstens 49.5
180 UMBULA Mick Price 49.5
181 UNIVERSAL HEIGHTS Colin Alderson 49.5
182 UPRIZE (NZ) Lee Freedman 49.5
183 VINANDO (GB) Charles Egerton 49.5
184 VIZ VITAE (NZ) Murray Baker 49.5
185 ZALS (NZ) Dan O'Sullivan 49.5
186 ZARIBAN David Peoples 49.5
187 ZUMANITY (NZ) John O'Shea 49.5
188 DOURO VALLEY Peter G Moody 49
189 NICONERO David Hayes 49
190 ROCKFORD BAY Michael Moroney 49
191 WILLY LEICA Alan Bailey 49
192 GEE THAT'S TOPS (NZ) Mark Walker 48.5
193 KAMSKY Bart Cummings 48.5
194 LIONS GATE David Hayes 48.5
195 STORM ALERT Lee Freedman 48.5
196 AKORDAT (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 48
197 AMIANAN Gai Waterhouse 48
198 BASRA Gai Waterhouse 48
199 BLIND OFFER Paul Preusker 48
200 BLUE COLLAR JACK Ken Keys 48
201 BREAK THE VAULT John Hawkes 48
202 BUT I'M SERIOUS Bob Haire 48
203 CALL A FRIEND Gai Waterhouse 48
204 CALORIFIC Gerald Ryan 48
205 CARA Y CRUZ (USA) Gai Waterhouse 48
206 CASHOUT Anthony Cummings 48
207 D MAJOR (NZ) Michael Moroney 48
208 DAMAZE Bart Cummings 48
209 DANEX (NZ) Michael Moroney 48
210 DUCKS Tony Wildman 48
211 FORCE NINE Cliff Brown 48
212 FROM THE BOULEVARD Bart Cummings 48
213 GARBO'S STORM Kevin Corstens 48
214 GLEN SHIAN Cliff Brown 48
215 GOOD SAMARITAN (NZ) Anthony Cummings 48
216 GRAPHICAL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48
217 HIGH CEE (NZ) Bart Cummings 48
218 HOUSE MOUSE (NZ) Mathew Ellerton 48
219 INTIERRA (NZ) Jim Conlan 48
220 LE LOUVRE Bart Cummings 48
221 LEICA FALCON Richard Freyer 48
222 MADISON LANE Chris Hyland 48
223 MAGIC INSTINCT (GB) Marcus Tregoning 48
224 MATRAS (NZ) Lee Freedman 48
225 MAXIMISATION Peter White 48
226 MERCURY ISLAND (NZ) Michael Moroney 48
227 MIDDLEMARCH Michael Kent 48
228 MILES (NZ) Peter Mckenzie 48
229 MUNSEF (GB) John Dunlop 48
230 NOTHIN' LEICA WIN Sheila Laxon 48
231 OVERCLOCK Stephen Theodore 48
232 PINAKAHARI Gai Waterhouse 48

233 PROCESSOR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 48
234 REINS OF POWER (NZ) Rick Hore-Lacy 48
235 ROCK OF ARCHES Stephen Theodore 48
236 SENTIRE (NZ) Robbie Laing 48
237 SHAQ MAGIC Mick Price 48
238 SOI COWBOY Mick Price 48
239 SURVEILLANCE Graeme Rogerson 48
240 SWICK (NZ) Bart Cummings 48
241 TAWQEET (USA) John Dunlop 48
242 TICK BY Lee Freedman 48
243 TOMMIFRANCS Lee Freedman 48
244 TRIPOLI John Symons 48
245 WENCESLAS SQUARE George Hanlon 48
246 ZIPPING Graeme Rogerson 48
247 BULLMORE Graeme Rogerson 46
248 DEREGULATE Graeme Rogerson 46
249 DUELLED Graeme Rogerson 46
250 FAT POSSUM (NZ) Tony Wildman 46
251 MASHED POTATO (NZ) Tony Vasil 46
252 WYOMING Tony Wildman 46

is Westerner really gonna race?

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? ph34r me ?

I have heard there is a good chance he will 58.5kg won't stop them coming over here with him either would reckon they would have been imagining 59-60kg, For the most part I didn't think the weights were to bad the only one I thought may have been harshly dealt with was Sir Dex thought he deserved atleast a kg less.

I thought the opinion pretty early on was that he wasn't going to come out here. Maybe the rather inviting weight might make them think strongly about it. If it was certain that he WAS going to come, I reckon he'd be a fair bit shorter in the betting than he is at the moment.

Vouvray 51.5
Demerger 51.5
You little ripper
you heard it first here

I have been putting Vouvrays name up for quite sometime now and I really think she is the horse to be on in the Caulfield Cup if she draws a decent barrier on the day that is ofcourse there is alot to be said and done before that stage anyway.