iam but a mug punter ill admit that but this betfair thing has turned everything upside down,i find it such ???at a loss for words ,so different. who would have thought that picking a loser was so hard....and yet it is so much better than the tabs,im not in it for the money i have a very well payed job but by god i love it.,.,....viva betfair

Yes, fester it's not as easy as some may think.

The odds are so much better, that it's actually very hard to lay losers unless you do it the no risk way, but that's not what most people are doing. The odds mean that just one or two winners can give back all the money made for the day.

Sure it's easy to pick losers, I do it every day but it's damn hard to make a profit out of it.

But guess where the real overs are.....

Horses at 50/1 and over with the TAB are often 100/1 and even 500/1, I've even seen 1000/1 on a horse that closed at 75/1 on the TAB.

But who could endure the run of outs month after month til a winner is struck.

Miss one and you'd take a big dive off the chair or throw your monitor through the window

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Care to elaborate, Chrome?

I guess you mean doing something like Michael is doing with quite a deal of success --- picking low priced horses that do not win. Now this is surely the old endeavour of picking false favourites --- but that is not too easy as experience has taught me.

Am thinking of trying out the "Betfair caper"; but haven't yet plucked up the courage. Any suggestions from anyone would be appreciated.

Merriguy,

It is different to what michael does. Its about shaping your own market so that they provide a profit regardless of who wins.