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Old 2nd November 2007, 09:25 AM
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Default Quinella Staking

I am looking for a staking plan for quinella betting each bet costs $7 per unit right now strike rate is 31% average divi is $21
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Old 2nd November 2007, 10:11 AM
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For every 10 bets your spending $70 to win $63.20 approx.

Sorry, but there is no staking plan to make a profit from a loss [bookies would go broke otherwise]. All a staking plan would do is increase your loses.
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Old 2nd November 2007, 01:16 PM
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It is early days and i don't have the data to say if the strike rate will be higher or lower or the average divi h/l.

But am still interested in ideas or should i just try flat stake and see what i get.

I have been looking at how many times No 1 runs first or second with the puppies you could collect over 30% of the quinellas with some nice results, i suppose i could convert this to units so every $7 is one unit saying the &21 would be three units, night nake it easier to play with the numbers.

Anyone able to test this out with a database for dogs.

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Old 2nd November 2007, 01:35 PM
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Personally I only use quin or Tri for certain races, to cobble a runner [or 2] at odds I think has a good chance of winning together with the fav. just in case.
If I think the fav. is seriously flawed [Tomorrow: Haradasun, Miss Finland, Marching and Weekend Hussler who is coming back 400m] I'll take advantage of the good win odds on others.

It up to you Shaun. Nothing wrong with a staking plan [% of bank or pocket ect.], as long as your not reaching for that worn out old chestnut 'progressive' staking. It will increase your winnings AND your loses because you have no way in knowing if your next bet is going to be a winner or loser.

You could use a very mild progression for interest, but you will just [eventualy] mildly increase your winning ....and losses.

It would be great to only increase our bets when we know they will be a winner:-)

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Old 2nd November 2007, 02:10 PM
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I meant Villian above, not Marching.
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Old 2nd November 2007, 03:42 PM
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I meant Villian above, not Marching.

Hi Crash!
It's not often, that I ask for a second opinion, but what do you think of the chances of Stockade?
I keep coming up with this horse in my ratings(handicapping).
Re. Villian do you like horses down in weights and good AVG prize money?
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Old 2nd November 2007, 04:44 PM
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Villian has a few problems here. The big one is going to be lack of pace and the 2nd one is the distance of 2500m. We have to remember we are talking 3yr. olds here. Villian's last win was run in very slow time [15 lengths off the track record on a firm track] so I'm not really impressed. Breedng is very dodgy for the distance and only on one side of the family.

Marching has the problem of maybe peeking last run and might struggle with the distance. Trainers don't get peek fitness for long from a 3 yr. old and the horse has done plenty this prep. Kibbutz got a poor barrier for a horse that hangs in [it's likely to get in trouble]. Needed b1,2,3. but is a main chance if lucky.

The Geelong form for Stokdale wasn't impressive for a Derby winner but my wife likes this one and is her pick and her form analysis is deadly, but different to mine [I don't understand it but she keeps finding winners at odds]. My pick is Lottorio, a massive horse of over 17 hands who will love this trip and course. Lightly raced and this is it's acid test. If it fails here with everything going for it, it's a gunna do. Great run last start.

If you like Stokdale stick with it. The wife has picked the last 3 Derby winners and the last 5 MC winners [mine was Rain Lover, a very long way back, but I also got the tri in 3]!

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Old 2nd November 2007, 04:54 PM
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but my wife likes this one and is her pick and her form analysis is deadly, but different to mine [I don't understand it but she keeps finding winners at odds].

I'm on a good thing then!
Mind you, Stockade isn't my first selection but more often then not I go for my second and third selection.
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Old 2nd November 2007, 04:59 PM
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Good luck to you too!
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Old 2nd November 2007, 05:42 PM
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5 of the last 8 Derby winners won their last start. Stockdale is the only horse that won it's last start.
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