Does anybody have the figures for the place SR of the top RadioTAb tips? How much of a loss do they make in the long term?

Edit: Wait I found a bug in my code and it was retrieving incorrect data. Will go fix that before I start giving stats...

Fixed. Here's my data for Jan - Oct 2008:

Top One Tab Tip
Selections: 12636
1st: 3232 (25.58%)
2nd: 2136 (16.9%)
3rd: 1717 (13.59%)
Not Placed: 5551 (43.93%)
Avg Win Price: 4.16
Avg Plc Price: 1.73

Top Two Tab Tips
Selections: 25271
1st: 5528 (21.87%)
2nd: 4178 (16.53%)
3rd: 3481 (13.77%)
Not Placed: 12084 (47.82%)
Avg Win Price: 5.24
Avg Plc Price: 1.92

Top Three Tab Tips
Selections: 37834
1st: 7192 (19.01%)
2nd: 5987 (15.82%)
3rd: 5163 (13.65%)
Not Placed: 19492 (51.52%)
Avg Win Price: 6.29
Avg Plc Price: 2.11


Races without Tab Tips are excluded.
Some races have only 1 or 2 tips. In these cases only the horses listed in the tips are counted.

2007:

Top One Tab Tip
Selections: 14240
1st: 3655 (25.67%)
2nd: 2509 (17.62%)
3rd: 1951 (13.7%)
Not Placed: 6125 (43.01%)
Avg Win Price: 4.19
Avg Plc Price: 1.7

Top Two Tab Tips
Selections: 28475
1st: 6210 (21.81%)
2nd: 4804 (16.87%)
3rd: 3887 (13.65%)
Not Placed: 13574 (47.67%)
Avg Win Price: 5.25
Avg Plc Price: 1.89

Top Three Tab Tips
Selections: 42568
1st: 8157 (19.16%)
2nd: 6774 (15.91%)
3rd: 5820 (13.67%)
Not Placed: 21817 (51.25%)
Avg Win Price: 6.3
Avg Plc Price: 2.07


Races without Tab Tips are excluded.
Some races have only 1 or 2 tips. In these cases only the horses listed in the tips are counted.

Okay, what's going on? Surely there must be something amiss with those figures? Either that or I'm not reading them correctly or something.

Because otherwise, I declare that you've found the holy grail!!!

lol, just what i was thinking - no1 tip has win s/r of 25.67% & avg divy of $4.19, im sure bhagwan has a staking plan to make those figures work

Haha no way gentleman. That average price is the average of all the win prices offered for the Top Tab Tip. Some of those can be outsiders and thus skew the results of the "average" price.

Maybe should have explained that first...in a few minutes I'll get that data back and tell you the average price of just the winners. My guess is that it will be around $3

Edit: On a site note its a good example why you shouldn't trust "average" figures because while that figure is 100% correct it does not represent the expected returns you would get using this system

Some more stats for you gents on that Top One Tab Tip for 2008 (just to prove it isnt that simple!)

Longest Wining Sequence = 6
Longest Losing Sequence = 27
Average Win odds (all horses) = $4.16
Average Win odds (just winners) = $3.15

Big difference there

Yeah, that's more like what I would have expected.

Damn, we'll have to keep searching for that holy grail.

dang, & here i was getting set for a big one tomorrow...