I'm a bit perplexed at this new "Fairprice Product" I mean why would be bet at best tote metro, when we can already bet Best Tote/SP?, and why would we bet Best tote Country capped at Supertab+30% when we can already bet BEST TOTE ALL GALLOPS 7 days a week without restrictions (Centrebet for one)

And why would we bet place only capped at +3% when we can already bet for the place: BEST TOTE???

I'm puzzled, not to mention we can also avail all of the above and have surcharge free CC deposits..!!

As far as Betfair prices (overall is concerned) of course yes they beat each individual tote, but when its BF-V- Best Tote/SP, I've found very little in it.

I'm not a massive backer (individual bets) but I place a lot of bets, my max individual bet is usually $200, and have found many times impossible to get matched with BF,

too haphassard for me, I need to know my bet is ON.

Am I a lone winger, or does anyone else agree!

Crikey John, your spelling is worse than Baggy's. It's Betfew.

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Agree with you party, seems an odd option when as you say you can get better than that already with other bookies, and even BF prices themselves. It looks as though its a deal run with Sports Alive, much like (not sure if its still there) the option to bet into the Tasmanian tote through BF. I guess its just another option for if you are a BF user and can't get matched or want to place a bigger bet and be guarenteed of getting it matched, you can do it all through BF without having to log onto different sites, and still get reasonable odds.

It's not at all odd thorns, just a good marketing move.
First they already have your account so you don't have to go through the 100 points rigmarole.

You may think that a serious punter would have several accounts already, but most have just a TAB and Betfair.

Also you have to think of the convenience of using one betting site, how many times did you miss out while checking prices on three or four different screens?

I haven't used betfew for at least the last six months because I couldn't get matched for the amount I wanted but with this, I might give it a try.

Cheers

Well, for Metro I guess its not too bad, but the thing is Top Fluc./Best Tote is readily available some days and Best tote/SP on others, I have those on screen ready to bet, so I don't find it a problem.

As I've told BF, what we want is Best Fluc/Tote all races 7 days, win, EW, or especially the place....(.i.e 1/4 odds when its Top fluc) and also CC deposits with no surcharge.

not looking to defend betfair & off subject a bit but a couple of you have mentioned not being able to get matched for stake you wanted using betfair - could i ask what sort of amounts you are talking about as that is not my experience having used betfair for an extended period now

the 'overs' obtained in comparison to my local tote (unitab) for me mean its a no brainer to be using betfair - my actual figures for last 3 months in $1 units -

betfair win divs $476
unitab win divs $390
overs obtained $86 - 22%

now i do have to work to get the best price & many times dont & about 1 in 4-5 bets my odds are less than the tote pays, but in the long run it pays.

so i am interested if any of you are obtaining greater than 20% over tote prices using any of the bookmakers you mention?

Stugots, your Betfair win divvies totals $476 - I presume this does not include their 5% commission?

If this is the case, then by my calcs Betfair's advantage over the TAB reduces to from 22% to 15.9%, which one would more or less expect after the TAB's 16% take-out. Still, 15.9% advantage is not bad, particularly if one's turnover can reduce Betfairs commission.

However I suppose its not inconceivable that some bookies who offer generous features as outlined by Party might match, and in some cases even be higher than Betfair's prices.

G'day Stugots, youre right BF V individual tote will usually be in front, % really depends on the price range though doesn't it?

But what I was saying is BF-V- BEST TOTE= different story. I'm not shopping for prices there, its done for me, say my nag today is at Belmont, can't get set at BF so back it best tote/sp on Spostsbet, not difficult no rocket science. Why would I back Fairprice @ best tote when I can back it Best Tote/SP

I've had several cases today where I wanted a modest $100 place bet when it reached a particular price, there was $15 available once and $36 another, they changed later, but too late, price had gone then.

Hi stugots,
my standard bet which I do not deviate from is $200.00/ race.
It could be and mostly is for win , sometimes each way or very rarely place only.

I only bet in the price range of $5.00 and over, usually in the teens and twenties.

I have no problem with Betfair prices, but so far I have never had a full match for anything above $10.00. On weekdays it's even difficult to get matched for the full amount under $10.

I'd love to bet on Betfair because the prices are much better, but by the time I have to muck about between BF and the TAB, some times I miss the race.

With the five bookies I used to bet, two asked me to stop and the other three put on restrictions to a very low level.
You do not have to win millions to be restricted either, just be consistent in winning week in week out.

Have not bothered with some betting sites that PartyP was mentioning here because in my price range the TABs are better anyway.
Bookies are good or better than the TAB at the short end of the market, no doubt about it.

But check out prices of a 20/1 shot on the TAB and you'd be lucky to get 12/1 from the man.

Good luck

Lomaca, just a quick word there, of course if you're betting at the higher end of the market the tote is better, but surely BEST tote is better still?

I.E. regardless of price, the best of Supertab, Unitab, NSW or SP has to be better than betting on any individual TAB??