Just curious if any forum members are interested in Harness Racing like I am.

There are lots of odds - on pops that get beaten, so there is a fair bit of value around for runners with a good chance.

I find the favourites way under their true odds, but many others are "overs".

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think the "big Dick" theory might apply here as well, as the mares seem to "PRICK" their ears up when they hear the "bell" at the "end"

yes, EI, I like harness racing since it appears to be more consistent formwise than the other codes of racing, and far more elegant.
There is nothing like watching one of these champions go to the lead and run away with the race.

however.... I also find it quite curious how consistently the strong favourite just gets beaten on the line :smile:

a few weeks ago a very good horse lost the start and ended up 30 metres behind the leader. He spent the race working his way back into contention only to momentarily break as he came off the back straight for the last time. He lost another 5 or so metres and then reset his stride and raced off after the leader, just missing by a whisker.
This horse had made up about 40 lost metres and still managed to get to the leader - but if he had started well I have no doubt he would have just won or just lost.
In a sense, they are playing with the public and keeping these races close - I dont mind, but I will stick to place betting as a precaution.

There must be a lot of punters out there who go mad watching a fantastic horse somehow come second in the last metre.

I dont mind following that Double Identity - now theres a horse who knows how to win !

give me the trots any day.

see ya
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EI,

I quite like the trots - as you say you can often get some great value bets. It constantly amazes me how short some of the favourites start - $1.20 or $1.30 is not uncommon which given the nature of harness racing seems ridiculous to me. I remember one race a few months ago the favourite was $1.10 on the tote so I had a few dollars on one of the other runners at about 15-1. They had only gone about 200 metres when the favourite had a gear breakage and was out of the race - I was happy but I think I could almost hear the swearing coming from the local TAB! Unfortunately I still backed the wrong runner (came a close 2nd or 3rd from memory) - the winner paid about $30.00.

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one of the aspects that I enjoy about harness racing is the class structure - it is simple to understand and identify and makes punting easier.
Of course, the class structure is also probably responsible for all the good horses running second in races - they are held back to avoid going up a class :smile:

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LOL - I remember seeing some absolute classic examples of this.

Rameses easily grabbed the lead at the start and was pulled back to the field in a mile race to end up three back on the fence @ $1.50, finished 5th and came out next start and won easily by 20m @ $6.00!!!

I was there that night standing next to the "race" back to the stalls. I started laughing audibly as the driver passed me by and he winked at me .

Where are the stewards!


[ This Message was edited by: Equine Investor on 2002-12-05 17:55 ]

not a bad one tonight either...
4 horses in the race at Geelong, with an outrageous favourite - $1.10 on NSWTAB.
the three others at $7,$9 and $18.
guess what - the $18 donkey won the race!!

sooooo predictable, and loving it :smile:

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I love horse racing and have a great rating structure that throws up a lot of good winners but one thing i can't get a grip of is the class system used , i have e-mailed clubs and organisations but they can't seem to give me the right information.

I was hoping you could help me Every Topic if it's not to much trouble?

You could either post it here for everyone in my position to see or you could email me at penrith43@hotmail.com

Don't worry if you want to keep it to yourself thats fully understantable.

Regards ,

Testarossa.

Testarossa do you mean

T0 T1 M0 M1 C1

etc?

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Yes thats right EI.

I understand that T is Trots and M is Metropolitan and C is Country and that M0 is a race with horses with no Metropolitan wins and so forth , but i don't completely understand how the it is all structured together and how far some classes are graded above others.

For example how far ahead is a C10 to a M2 or vice versa and so on?