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Old 18th November 2010, 02:24 PM
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Has anyone tried to systematically tackle the First 4's?

With some huge dividends, I think there was a $149K dividend over the Melbourne carnival, it would appear to offer the chance for a large payout with hopefully not a large expense.

I see the drawback as being "anything can run 3rd or 4th" hence the cost can get out of control trying to cover too many combinations. Even with flexibet too many combinations leads to a very low % of your flexibet on the winning dividend.

Do we only bet in races with a certain number of starters, say 10-14 runners to ensure we are aiming for significant dividends?

Do we only bet when we can identify 1 or 2 horses to win and maybe upto 4 horses to run 2nd and then go wider for the 3rd and 4th positions?

Are we better to tackle the Quaddie to get a bigger payout than look at the First4?

A quick look at Melbourne Saturday City meetings tends to indicate you cannot ignore any horses with horses at 125-1, 200-1, 101-1 either winning or running places.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 18th November 2010, 02:58 PM
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I do everyonce in awhile.
My modus operandi is
i.e Take the case of Seymour R 7 H 1 - 5 - 7 - 9 - 13 I exclude all horses under $6 (add 1 to the number of selections for MINIMUM acceptable Price)
Whats left I box up for the 1st 4.
If whats left are too few then I either take the Quinella or Trifecta .
Ocassionaly I get a massive payout but rare.

I like your thinking.
My selections I get from the Don Scott weight ratings at R+S.

Good luck today.
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Old 18th November 2010, 04:11 PM
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Alas
Mind you a profit on the race and thats the main thing.(just not the 1st 4)

I still reckon your thinking on the right track and you only need a couple of these a year to thoroughly enjoy the punting experience (its kind of like you never forget the big ones)..
You just work out whats right for your own punting.
For me when Michaelg posted R+S The "Ah Ha "experience imediately kicked in and I still expect him to win the award for "poster of the Year".
This bloke has improved my punting immensly as has the more intelligent low key punters who post here (generally the old timers who have been around a bit).

Cheers.
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Old 22nd November 2010, 01:20 PM
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Hey Darkydog2002,

I just discovered if you click on the race meeting name on R&S it opens up all the info that I need.

I have always clicked on to the icons on the right hand side and I would have to continue to close one (neurals) and open the other (Don Scott Spreadsheet) if I wanted to look at a specific race. It is a lot easier now!
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Old 22nd November 2010, 11:02 PM
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Also on the DS Sheets , one can click onto the 12m header & it will sort it into order for you .

Same for DLS deader (Days Last start)
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Also on the DS Sheets , one can click onto the 12m header & it will sort it into order for you .

Same for DLS header (Days Last start)
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