I don't bet on quaddies but...

Looking at them in relation to the neurals using the default settings deleting the CF, TIM, DLR categories but including WT at a setting of 3:

1) All at $20 and less in the neural market,
2) All horses in each leg must have a minimum of 3 career starts,
3) Each leg of the quaddie must have 9 or more runners,

I've only been able to check the results over the past two days using Tattsbet divvies, which are:

Yesterday:

Taree
outlay of $3,584
return of $7,400

Monday

Narromine
Outlay of $2,401
Return of $5,000

Armidale
Outlay of $3,136
Return of $6,900

Total
Outlay of $9,121
Return of $19,300
Profit of $10,000

I readily accept this is only the smallest of samples and the results may have just been exceptionally good, and ready for a crash. However, the chances because of the huge amount of selections are quite high that the quaddie will be snared, and it only takes one or two good-priced winners for the quaddie to create a happy smile. Interestingly, there was only one double-priced winner in each of the above three quaddies.

I'll look at today's qualifying quaddies and report the results here when known.

The good lord will be very interested. I look forward to your results.

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I use the above neural settings with only one filter to Lay the Field. I'm currently having success with it and noticed very, very few of the accidents/winners came from over $20 in the neural market. So out of interest I applied it to the quaddies because they are superior to an all-up bet due to the lower overall TAB take-out.

One way to find out...

Indeed he is. The beast awakes... Michaelg, you are fast becoming a professor of neural-ogy, I see!

Cheers LG

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I made an error. The quaddie for Taree was $2,140 and not $7,400 which was the F.F. So, the results are $5,260 less than quoted, but still quite impressive.

I've also checked the all-up divvies.

Narromine
All-up $2,922
Quaddie $5,000

Armidale
All-up $5,879
Quaddie $6,900

Taree
All-up $870
Quaddie $2,140.

Total All-up $9,671
Total Quaddie $14,000

I don't know if this huge discrepancy of 50% is due to the mid-week fields, but today being Wednesday there should be higher pools and a better quality of horses.

There are a couple of problems I can think of with big outlays that will bring you undone:

1. If the divvy is small (say $200 - which it has been plenty of times).
2. You don't win at all.

Just 3 outlays from your example losing or winning very small divvy's will wipe away those profits.

As LG I think was getting at on the other thread - you need as small an outlay as possible. Even my attempts at $625 outlays (5x5x5x5) was too high I reckon.

Just some food for thought.

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Agreed with The Ocho, outlay's of that size will bring you undone pretty quickly if you miss a couple of quaddie's.

I too have tried the 5x5x5x5 style of doing quaddies and it hasn't yielded anything of significance yet.

I'm also surprised that the quaddies yesterday paid so well if there was only one double figure horse in each one. I'll be interested to see how you continue to go over the coming days. From memory some of the essentials we highlighted in the quaddie thread some time ago:

- Be extremely selective with the quaddies you wish to attempt
- Look for quaddies where at least 1 leg has a false favourite that can get you some value
- Ensure at least 1-2 legs have more than 10 or so runners to increase value

I've just changed my approach to backing a bit, if I get time today might post some quaddies up, see how I go.

good luck mg

Agree as well from our time on the quaddie thread we explored many different ideas, the main thing that we all agreed on was the number of selections, you need to limit this because as you see some quaddies pay a nice price but the average are well below $1000 and you only need to miss some big ones to hurt you.

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Wise words gentleman.. thank you again for your input and insights on that thread.

Has been big part of my evolution on here.

Cheers LG

PS kick in with a song if you will, sing-song-man schmiles...

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Thanks for the comments, gents.

The selection system has produced a couple of large quinella and trifecta divvies, so I'm hoping it will also apply to the quaddies. I'm not betting them because laying is my go, but I will most likeley record them, just in case.

Today's quaddie selections:

Strathalbyn

1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10
1, 3, 4, 6, 10, 11, 12
Outlay of $2,401

Caulfield
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,
2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 12,
1, 3, 4, 11, 12, 13, 16
1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 11, 13
Outlay of $2,058