I just placed a $5k liability SP Lay bet on Kilmore 2. The screen showed the bet had been placed, my account was debited $5k at the time of bet. The horse lost and no bet was recorded and liability refunded. If you place a SP Lay liability bet and you receive confirmation that the bet has been accepted, does that NOT mean it's been accepted? They claim the bet lapsed.

Currently have raised a dispute with them but wish I had taken a screenshot of the bet and will do so from now on. Over em!!

Answered my own question. If the dividend assigned to a SP bet is 1.01 or 1000 then the bet will lapse. Considering there was $25k plus in the pool and my dividend payout at 1000 SP is $5, you'd think they'd pay?
No to that one. I would've been better off having a $1k bet.

Speaking off screenshots, with Betfair now not showing the Lay, SP price history after a race has been completed of the non place getters, how amongst other details does a Lay bettor find out what the SP and Lay prices were for a race in the instance that they want to dispute a dividend?

In this instance I did have a screenshot of the final prices at the Close, just not the bet. There is something fundamentally wrong with the lack of transparency with this latest upgrade/downgrade!.

You have to wait until the evening and then download the prices in csv format from http://www.betfairpromo.com/betfairsp/prices/
This gives all the prices for all runners.
Did you set a price cutoff and it was over the price, otherwise I can't think of why it would not have been matched.

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https://promo.betfair.com/betfairsp/results.html
This also gives all the win and place Sp's for Aussie races, but cuts off late at night for UK prices.

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Incredibly helpful. Thanks bud.

LG

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Useful info CP, however the above website is only Gallops, no Trots. The other site is dated current day but results show previous day. So if I want to look up the SP prices for Kilmore R2, I'll have to wait till sometime today.

Still annoying to say the least, fortunately I've found away around it, not for publication?? I never had a limit on my SP bet but they say it had a SP price of 1000, therefore refer to fine print:

"Will there be unmatched SP bets if the money isn’t there?

In theory, there could be unmatched SP bets. We don’t actually guarantee a match. But this would only happen if the price is 1.01 or 1000 – the two extremes of our SP. If 1.01 were the final SP, then some backers might be unmatched. If 1000 were the final SP, then some layers will be unmatched. However, we expect this to be very rare"

Looks like I'm very rare....lol

My Name Is Earl ( 5 ) 3.9
	
Charliesbaby ( 10 ) 37.75
	
Patch Pepperell ( 3 ) 17.5
	
Poetsnpirates ( 9 ) 750.78
	
Nulnvoid ( 1 ) 5
	
Atego Caviar ( 2 ) 19.95

Strap Star ( 6 ) 1000
	
Pride Of Sundon ( 7 ) 2.59
	
Herecomeskayla ( 8 ) 202.7

Maccas Gone Kracas ( 4 ) Scratched 

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Cheers for that CP. A hot night here, couldn't sleep so thought, might as well update the stats. Betfair's official response was:

"Please be advised that we can never guarantee a SP bet will be matched in the market"

Reassuring hey!

Hi All
I have been pursuing with Betfair as to where I go to find results of lay betting immediately after a race.
Guess what?
I was told to go to a sight where they publish results which will be upgraded on a fortnightly basis. Very helpful?
Sounds like we are getting mixed information out of Betfair?
I have questioned with them, seeing they are not doing an immediate lay betting result as in the past, whether they are considering quitting lay betting. No answer yet despite 2 requests to answer my direct question.

Regards
Ted