HI

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN BETTING MORE THAN ONE HORSE IN THE RACE. TAKING INTO ACCOUNT IF A LOSING RUN OCCURS.

GENERALLY HAVE TWO THREE OR FOUR IN A RACE SOMETIMES ONE. AVERAGE TWO PER RACE

MINIMUM PRICE I ACCEPT IS GENERALLY 8/1 OR ABOVE NO CEILING.

WINNNERS ARE CONSISTENT GOOD FLOW OF THEM AT GREAT PRICES. WEEK AFTER WEEK.
EG. SAT. 21/6/03
XR1. 8/1
XR3. 15/1
SR7. 40/1
MR7. 11/1
AR6. 12/1
AR7. 10/1

HAPPY TO HEAR ALL VIEWS ON THIS.

I CAN SUPPLY SOME RESULTS IF NEEDED.

I JUST THINK WITH THE RIGHT STAKING METHOD THE RETURNS WOULD BE MUCH BETTER.

OR HAS ANYONE HAVE SOME SUGGESTION OF HOW I CAN GO ABOUT THIS.

AND OF COURSE IT WOULD HELP FORUM PUNTERS THAT LOOK AT MY RATINGS TO USE THEM FOR TH E WIN.

VALUE IS THE KEY TO THE RATINGS.


REGARDS
UBETIDO









[ This Message was edited by: ubetido on 2003-06-25 05:59 ]

Great to see another punter going after the big winers....i myself take 4 selections a race and it seams great to get those high priced winners but after you calculate a few losers and placeing 4 selections you need thos prices to stay in front....at the moment i just back all selections equaly at a percentage of my bank....i bet 2% of my bank per race and recalculate the bank at the end of each week...i tried dutching my selections but found when i got the big winners the return was minamal because i didn't have enough on them....maybe you could try a 4-3-2-1 unit bet placeing 4 units on the lowest price and 1 unit on the highest....i have been thinking of trying this...i would love to hear about any sugestions you have on rateings maybe we could share info my e-mail is
shaun2166@msn.com

What you might find is how often the Fav kocks off your horse .

I have found its best to target races where the Fav is paying $3.60 or more , they they tend to loose more often which is what you want.

__________________
Cheers.

have you seen the notice on many (so called)one armed bandits (a name NOT picked without a tongue in cheek) it says something like "THIS MACHINE PAYS OUT A MINIMUM OF 85%"
what they are really saying is THIS MACHINE WILL TAKE 15% OF ALL MONEY PUT IN, LIKE CLOCKWQORK"

Like wise all betting races are configured the same way or similar, i.e,. as most are set to something like 120%, what they are saying is we will take 20% MINIMUM of all amounts wagered.

Now I know you dont like that, but no matter how 'YOU" @#$% around with the results and/ or staking plans THAT will be the end result EVENTUALLY, BCOZ it is built in b4 hand, GET IT?????

Ok, so let us presume that the one armed bandit will let us ALTER our stake (on each bet) so we say that bet 1 = $1, bet 2 is whatever and whatever, no matter, as it is always pre set to take the %, GET IT????

In other words ------ you have wasted your time for the last -- years as it is ALL stacked aginst you from day one!!

You will NEVER beat it as it is always stacked against yiou b4 u start!! WAKE UP BOSS!!

SORRY thats why my name is PARTYPOOPER!!

[ This Message was edited by: Moderator 1 on 2003-06-28 09:39 ]

ubetido,

yes, it can be done, I do it.
But I won't reveal it here, or send it by email with all due respect. But first try by using 3 horses. And step by step, according to the results, figure out the next mathematical logic in sequence.
Once you do, then you to will not want to hand it on plate. You become wise, and when I asked the same question, that was my answer, and I appreciate it now.
If you can use a spreadsheet, you will soon figure it out.





[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2003-06-28 12:01 ]

hi partypooper

well you are not comparing apples with apples are you there is far greater control on choice of odds and decision making on the horses than playing the pokies.

you just have to think outside the box mate and you probably hate to think anyone else is winning.

Sorry mate but just throwing in a question into the forum i feel does not call for your sarcasm irrespective of what your title is.

regards
ubetido

hi puntz

well great to hear it can be done because i know it can but just havent had the time to sit there and work on it. I guess i just need a kick start. I certainly don't need a lecture on percentages

if u like to exchange some ideas you can email me ubetido@iprimus.com.au.

i am happy to share some ideas with you

regards
ubetido

Ubetido, appologies first, I did sound a bit emphatic didn't I? didn't mean to sound sarcastic iether, in fact I forgot to say that I was only talking about "staking plans" i.e. trying to turn a losing idea into a winning one by use of a staking plan.
But you are right I am jealous of all of you that have found "the winning formula" I'm still looking, envious I should say, as certainly dont begrudge it!!

hi partypooper

just because one asks about a staking plan doesnt mean its a losing idea.

perhaps if you were more constructive rather than destructive in your comments people may share there ideas or in fact there way of winning to make you a winner i thought thats what this forum was all about.

Im sure you probably have some good ideas of your own.

Its not an easy road mate but the pool is big enough for all of us to have a drink.

cheers i wish you well
ubetido

A staking plan from my perspective does a number of functions.

1) It's a form of record keeping of what you bet and what happened.
2) It's a form of balance keeping so you know how well you fare. I use a spreadsheet which helps to do all the little things like correct calculation of profit etc, so you can watch out for the important matters.
3) It's takes part in the decision making process of whether to go ahead or not. (if say you win well and achieved a target.)
4) It can help to work out your bet sizes. That's providing you are balancing it with likely outcomes (which you have a good picture about), and prices.

Because betting on horses is a limited end game and we are collecting from a 85% return pool, it's important get value and that is all about the ratio of Benefit / Risk. If the benefit outweights the risk then it's in your interest to move forward on that using a staking plan. But if the benefit isn't there in the first place no staking plan is going to be effective for you, unless you want to get rid of your money...

With that there are a couple of sources which I have found both informative and helpful.

http://www.form-pro.com.au/Q&A.html
(this is a page with very sound ideas on how to bet)

http://www.practicalpunting.com.au/staking/
(this is a download page for a free article on staking)