Ok guys, this is really annoying me.

What are the home grounds for each Melbourne team?

When one Melbourne team plays in another Melbourne venue, should it be classed as an away or a neutral venue?

I think that's one of the very annoying things about AFL. There basically aren't any genuine home ground advantages between two Melbourne sides any more. They all seem to play at the MCG or Telstra Dome. Carlton used to have a good home ground advantage at Optus Oval, but they are now going to give that up also.

Some teams may play better at the MCG or better at Telstra Dome (eg. St Kilda), but basically, you could call almost all games between Melbourne sides 'neutral'.


[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-08-21 00:58 ]

Dirt with grass on top.
Home ground advantage should be renamed to plain,"Ground Advantage".
It's to do with the shape and size of a ground that determine whether the ground will suit the teams playing style.
The only Home Advantage that a team gets is the number of supporters that rock up to influence the umpires decisions and perhaps support team moral.

I look at the situation this way:
If Melbourne were playing Geelong at the MCG as a Home game they would get a bonus of 6 points.4 points for ground and 2 points for supporters.

If Geelong were playing Melbourne at the MCG as a Home game then neither team gets a bonus.Maybe 4 points for supporters to Geelong cancelled by 4 points ground for Melbourne.

If Geelong were playing Melbourne at Skilled Stadium though, that's definitely a home ground advantage.

It's just another reason why the AFL is a flawed comp. The interstate teams get 11 home games, and except for derbies it's a 4 goal headstart in most cases.
The melb teams have no home ground advantage against other Melb teams

yep as history suggests

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[ This Message was edited by: gum stumpa on 2004-08-21 09:51 ]

So what we need Mug Punta is to send 2 Melbourne teams every week to Darwin to play so they have some real away games to make it fair to the Interstate clubs.

Geelong V Melbourne,Skilled Stadium.
6 points for Ground and 4 points for supporters makes a 10 point bonus Sportznut.

Yeah, but on the other hand, interstate teams also get 11 AWAY games too. Because of all the neutral Melbourne games, teams like Collingwood, Essendon etc usually only have to play 3 or 4 genuine away games each year. The rest are all played in Melbourne.

That's exactly the same bonus I would give for that game. I'd usually give a higher bonus for Geelong playing against an interstate team though.


[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-08-21 10:13 ]

Spoken like a true Qlder, Sportz.
I know that there are problems for all teams with the current system. But, it's funny how all interstate teams bar the crows are vying for the 8 and last year all of them made the 8.

If for my arguments sake, they do have a 4 goal adv at home they will win 8-9 of their 11 games. It means they only have to win 3-4 of their 11 travelling games to play finals and only win 1/2 their away games to have a top 4 spot. Looks like a fairly big advantage to me