Racing In The West

[Paddy]

Thought I would start a new thread, the other one is getting a bit too big!

[umrum]

your an ideas man paddy!

[Paddy]

FRUIT 'N' VEG STAKES - 2000M

No. Horse Weight Barrier Jockey Trainer
1. Finito 58.0 Phil Humann
2. Emission 58.0 Paul Harvey Cliff Brown
3. Corporate Bruce 58.0 Hec Mc Laren
4. Main Stage 58.0 Allan Taylor
5. True Steel 58.0 Maxine Payne
6. Hardrada 57.5 Jason Whiting Lou Luciani
7. Kentiara 55.5 Robert Harvey (Jnr)
8. Free At Last (NZ) 55.5 Alan Mathews
9. Superior Star 55.0 Neville Parnham
10. Milanova 55.0 Tony Mc Evoy
11. Crimson Sakura 55.0 John Claite Robert Matthews
12. River Mist 51.0 Peter Knuckey George Daly
13. Laetare 51.0 Patrick Carbery Ted Martinovich
14. Spirit Lady 48.5 Fred Kersley
EMERGENCY RUNNERS
15. Mogul E1 58.0 Lindsey Smith
16. Alibi Bay E2 58.0 Paul Miller
17. Magic Aces E3 51.0 Peter Giadresco
18. Heavy Nova E4 58.0 Fred Kersley


Barrier draw tomorrow.

[Paddy]

(13) LAETARE is my top tip. Last start ran home strongly beaten 1len over this distance. Drops a massive 6.5kg on that run.

(1) FINITO is my next best. Ran a close 2nd in this race last year (1800M), running on strongly. Put in a shocker last start in the Railway Stakes. Can improve dramatically.

(6) HARDRADA is my third choice. Beaten odds-on favourite (1len) last year in this race. Looks to be a much stronger horse this year.

(12) RIVER MIST my fourth choice. Won the WA Guineas (1600M) is fine style 2 starts back. Not a bad run behind Hardrada in the Railway Stakes. Meets that horse 4.5kg better in this race.

Good luck to all.

[umrum]

Paddy i watched laetare's last two runs and i think he peaked on his run in both of them. I cant see him running 2000metres. I give river n=mist a top e/w hope. Hardrada is a risk over 2000m, he is built like a sprinter but on his railway run he is almost a certainty, he travelled about 1900m in the railway. Finito if right is great value, doubt he'll be 20/1 on the day. Pretty tough race, you have to respect emission, hard to see the rest of them doing any good.

In summation it looks like the class horses either have a query over their form/fitness and/or their ability to run 2000m while the 2000m horses it appears lack the class. It is one tricky race I have to put Hardrada on top from finito then emission and river mist.

Hardrada
Finito
Emission
River Mist

cheers
umrum

[umrum]

superior star, crimson sakura and free at last may be value but all have to rise to the class. Very hard. The pocket rocket corporate bruce is also silly value.

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[Sandgroper]

Current WA TAB odds:

HARDRADA $3.40
FREE AT LAST $5.50
LAETARE $6.50
RIVER MIST $11.00
CRIMSON SAKURA $12.00
EMISSION $12.00
MILANOVA $12.00
SPIRIT LADY $12.00
TRUE STEEL $13.00
FINITO $15.00
SUPERIOR STAR $21.00
MOGUL (1EM) $35.00
MAGIC ACES (3EM) $41.00
CORPORATE BRUCE $41.00
KENTIARA $51.00
ALIBI BAY (2EM) $81.00
HEAVY NOVA (4EM) $101.00
MAIN STAGE $101.00







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[umrum]

wa tab betting to approx 130%. what a joke. problem is soft bookies will do similar on saturday.

[Sandgroper]

Looking at the current odds, EW Corporate Bruce (40/1) is not as silly as you think umrum. After all he did run 2nd in this race last year beaten only 0.5 length. Kentiara at 50/1 is also another that looks to be over the odds (EW).



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[umrum]

that was my point sandgroper. silly odds for a good horse. read it again. :razz:

[umrum]

On 2003-12-08 18:08, umrum wrote:
that was my point sandgroper. silly odds for a good horse. read it again. :razz:
you can have whatever you like on kentiara. no danger for mine but stranger things have happened. i.e devil's dance losing and chuka khan winning

[Sandgroper]

Why strange Chucka Khan winning, umrum?


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[umrum]

obviously i didnt back it but really it has albany form, many in the race had solid form lines some of them winning formlines like thunderhawk and heavy nova(i backed it). Great ride by Olsen though, I think it was a leaders bias track on the weekend which helped.

cheers
umrum

[BettyBoop]

The only thing strange about Chucka Khan winning on Saturday was the shortish price :sad:

Has not missed a place this preparation, start prior to Sat won a class 5 at Albany by 4 lens, has also won at Northam & been placed at Ascot. Last city start (prior to Sat) had excuses when unplaced behind two handy horses - Constantinople & Celtus.

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[BettyBoop]

Still sorting my selections for the Fruit 'n' Veg - the additional 200M (1800M to 2000M) makes it a little more trickier (just ask umrum, he has already tipped over half the field :smile: ) - the majority of starters look to be untried over the distance.

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[umrum]

i'm narrowing it down for you boop. :wink:

Hardrada
Free at Last
Finito
River MIst

cheers
umrum

[Sandgroper]

Just half the field have won or been placed over 2000M or longer BettyBoop. I've put together a quick list showing longest distance each horse has won or been placed (1,2,3) at.

Finito – 2400M
Emission – 2000M
Corporate Bruce – 1800M
Main Stage – 2000M
True Steel – 2400M
Hardrada – 1600M
Kentiara – 1800M
Free At Last – 2200M
Superior Star – 2400M
Milanova – 2025M
Crimson Sakura – 2400M
River Mist – 1600M
Laetare – 1600M
Spirit Lady – 1600M
Mogul E1 – 1600M
Alibi Bay E2 – 2400M
Magic Aces E3 – 1250M
Heavy Nova E4 – 1700M


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[Sandgroper]

Fruit 'N' Veg field with barrier draw - which I think as per another thread, doesn't matter anyway :smile:

No. Horse Weight Barrier Jockey Trainer
1. Finito 58.0 17 Daniel Staeck Phil Humann
2. Emission 58.0 7 Paul Harvey Cliff Brown
3. Corporate Bruce 58.0 3 Hec Mc Laren
4. Main Stage 58.0 8 Allan Taylor
5. True Steel 58.0 13 Maxine Payne
6. Hardrada 57.5 16 Jason Whiting Lou Luciani
7. Kentiara 55.5 14 Shaun O’Donnell Robert Harvey (Jnr)
8. Free At Last (NZ) 55.5 4 Troy Turner Alan Mathews
9. Superior Star 55.0 1 Neville Parnham
10. Milanova 55.0 12 Tony Mc Evoy
11. Crimson Sakura 55.0 5 John Claite Robert Matthews
12. River Mist 51.0 18 Peter Knuckey George Daly
13. Laetare 51.0 11 Patrick Carbery Ted Martinovich
14. Spirit Lady 48.5 2 Fred Kersley
EMERGENCY RUNNERS
15. Mogul E1 58.0 15 Lindsey Smith
16. Alibi Bay E2 58.0 9 Paul Miller
17. Magic Aces E3 51.0 10 Peter Giadresco
18. Heavy Nova E4 58.0 6 Fred Kersley


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[umrum]

Hardrada should get out to 7/2 now even though barriers dont affect a horses chances :wink:

[Paddy]

NSWTAB Fixed Odds - Prices at: 12:13:15, 11 Dec 2003
No. Selection Win Place
006 Hardrada $4.25 $1.80
008 Free At Last $4.25 $1.85
013 Laetare $6.50 $2.35
002 Emission $11.00 $3.50
010 Milanova $11.00 $3.50
011 Crimson Sakura $11.00 $3.50
001 Finito $13.00 $4.00
012 River Mist $13.00 $4.00
014 Spirit Lady $17.00 $5.00
005 True Steel $21.00 $6.00
009 Superior Star $21.00 $6.00
017 Magic Aces 3em $26.00 $7.25
003 Corporate Bruce $34.00 $9.25
004 Main Stage $51.00 $13.50
015 Mogul 1em $51.00 $13.50
018 Heavy Nova 4em $101.00 $26.00
016 Alibi Bay 2em $126.00 $32.25
007 Kentiara Scratched Scratched

[Paddy]

NSWTAB Fixed Odds - Prices at: 11:12:36, 12 Dec 2003
No. Selection Win Place
006 Hardrada $4.00 $1.70
008 Free At Last $4.50 $1.80
013 Laetare $7.00 $2.35
002 Emission $11.00 $3.50
010 Milanova $11.00 $3.50
011 Crimson Sakura $11.00 $3.50
001 Finito $13.00 $4.00
012 River Mist $15.00 $4.00
014 Spirit Lady $17.00 $5.00
005 True Steel $21.00 $6.00
009 Superior Star $21.00 $6.00
003 Corporate Bruce $31.00 $9.25
017 Magic Aces 3em $34.00 $7.25
004 Main Stage $51.00 $13.50
015 Mogul 1em $51.00 $13.50
018 Heavy Nova 4em $101.00 $26.00
016 Alibi Bay 2em $126.00 $32.25
007 Kentiara Scratched Scratched

Hardrada firming in.

[Sandgroper]

006 Hardrada $4.00 ($3.80)
008 Free At Last $4.50 ($4)
013 Laetare $7.00 ($7)
002 Emission $11.00 ($11)
010 Milanova $11.00 ($13)
011 Crimson Sakura $11.00 ($14)
001 Finito $13.00 ($13)
012 River Mist $15.00 ($14)
014 Spirit Lady $17.00 ($14)
005 True Steel $21.00 ($26)
009 Superior Star $21.00 ($31)
003 Corporate Bruce $31.00 ($35)
017 Magic Aces 3em $34.00 ($51)
004 Main Stage $51.00 ($71)
015 Mogul 1em $51.00 ($35)
018 Heavy Nova 4em $101.00 ($151)
016 Alibi Bay 2em $126.00 ($101)

Hi Paddy, have included current WA Tab odds in brackets.

WA Tab paying same or better for all horses except Hardrada, Free At Last, River Mist, Spirit Lady, Mogul & Alibi Bay.


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[Sandgroper]

COLONEL REEVES STAKES (LISTED) 1200M - 20 DEC 2003 - ORDER OF ENTRY

1. TRIBULA.............................................. 57.5
2. KAPRATS........................................57.0
3. IRISH PRIDE...................................57.0
4. FAIR ALERT....................................57.0
5. SECRET REMEDY..........................56.0
6. EARLY EXPRESS...........................55.5
7. GOLDEN DELICIOUS.....................53.5
8. MODEM...........................................54.0
9. CENTO............................................54.0
10. CATION...........................................53.0
11. KAME'S HOPE................................53.0
12. POLYGRAM....................................53.0
13. WYNDAM GLORY...........................53.0
14. DEAD EYE DICK.............................52.5
15. HOT SHOT BROTHER ...................52.5
16. DIFFRACTION ................................52.5
17. DARK 'N' DANGEROUS .................52.5
18. DOUBLE JEWEL.............................52.5
19. STOCKIE'S YARN...........................52.0
20. HARTLEYS DREAM........................52.0
21. MERCURY HALO............................52.0
22. CARRY KALI ...................................52.0
23. EASTERN STANDARD...................52.0
24. DEVIL'S DANCE .............................52.0
25. MOON TALK ...................................52.0
26. CENT DANCING .............................52.0
27. PURE EXCITEMENT ......................52.0
28. LE TRU NOIR..................................52.0
29. RISCA FLIGHT................................52.0
30. CELTIC RIDGE ...............................52.0



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[umrum]

it's early days but if polygram is right looks to be a great bet. Very well in at the weights.

[umrum]

I cant understand the wrap for laetare. River Mist beat him in the guineas by 2 lengths and Laetare peaked on his run, he didnt run the 2000m out last week(he's about 6 lengths better than the horses that beat him over anything up to 1600m). River Mist is the value in this race but I'm sticking with Hardrada and Free at Last.

[umrum]

tips for 13/12

belmont

Race 1 Spin on In
Pure Excitement

Race 2 Royal Minx
Shotgun Kid
Heavy Nova

Race 3 Knight Academy

Race 4 Covertly
Cell Block TAngo

Race 5 Beyond Dispute
Bonnie Brae
Western Pompeii

Race 6 Mercerdario*
Higgins Gold

Race 7 Hardrada
Free at Last
Mogul

Race 8 Shirbella
Dante's Kalista

Race 9 Raffle it but I'll go Family MOney from Le tru Noir from Trillemo

cheers
umrum

[partypooper]

Common sense= Hardrada
Partypoopers Plum Movers = Free at last
Gut = Superior Star

[Sandgroper]

Colonel Reeves Stakes - 1200M - Belmont Sat

1 Tribula 2 OPN 57.5 A H Mortimer
2 Fair Alert 16 OPN 57 O R Sweetman
3 Irish Pride 19 OPN 57 N D Parnham
4 Kaprats 17 OPN 57 W L Radford
5 Secret Remedy 10 OPN 56 N D Parnham
6 Early Express 15 OPN 55.5 P J Giadresco
7 Cento 18 OPN 54 F R Kersley
8 Modem 5 OPN 54 T M Andrews
9 Golden Delicious 12 OPN 53.5 J P Taylor
10 Cation 20 OPN 53 G M Ayres
11 Kame's Hope 4 OPN 53 C H Webster
12 Polygram 14 OPN 53 C K Ward
13 Wyndam Glory 3 OPN 53 A J Mc Evoy
14 Dark 'n' Dangerous 7 OPN 52.5 K W Shanks
15 Dead Eye Dick 13 OPN 52.5 B P Graham
16 Hot Shot Brother 8 CL6 52.5 P H Jordan
17 Double Jewel E 1 11 OPN 52.5 G E Daly
18 Stockie's Yarn E 2 9 OPN 52 M W Pateman
19 Mercury Halo E 3 6 OPN 52 M W Pateman
20 Devil's Dance E 4 1 OPN 52 P J Giadresco


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[Sandgroper]

Current WA Tab odds.

DEAD EYE DICK $5.50
HOT SHOT BROTHER $5.50
EARLY EXPRESS $9.00
IRISH PRIDE $10.00
KAMES HOPE $10.00
TRIBULA $12.00
MODEM $12.00
MERCURY HALO (3E) $13.00
KAPRATS $14.00
CATION $14.00
FAIR ALERT $17.00
CENTO $17.00
GOLDEN DELICIOUS $17.00
POLYGRAM $17.00
STOCKIES YARN (2E) $21.00
DEVILS DANCE (4E) $21.00
DARK N DANGEROUS $26.00
WYNDAM GLORY $31.00
SECRET REMEDY $51.00
DOUBLE JEWEL (1E) $101.00


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[MyHatMyCoat]

HOT SHOT BROTHER
POLYGRAM
DEAD EYE DICK
MODEM

[BettyBoop]

(12) Polygram looks well in, will be suited by expected fast pace. Drawn out, so should get plenty of running room.

(16) Hot Shot Brother, further improvement expected.

(1) Tribula, doesn't look well weighted but very capable.

(19) Mercury Halo been racing below best, could surprise if gets a start.

[umrum]

there's some very very generous odds for some good horses in the colonel reeves. I like polygram though he had to be floated over rather than flown. Dead eye Dick looks a massive chance on his last run. Irish Pride has to be respected though he is a non winner for mine in these big races.

cheers
umrum

[umrum]

Dead Eye Dick with the ponteif aboard appears to be a special.

cheers
umrum

[partypooper]

Common sense = Dead eye Dick
Gut = Fair Alert
PPM (Partypoopers Plum Movers)= Hot Shot Brother

[Paddy]

Don't you just love the way Celtus fights on in his races. Could go onto even better things.

[Shaun]

yeah it was great...that was my only selection in perth for the day

[Sandgroper]

Reported in the press this morning (the West Australian), that the Perth Cup will be run on New Year's Day at Ascot or not at all.

Belmont is being ruled out as it only has a capacity of about 7,000 compared to Ascot's 40,000.

Test gallops (at Ascot) that had been due to take place yesterday have been postponed until Saturday.

The turf club has reportedly also ruled out racing wider on the track at Ascot with a limited field.

It is very possible that the Cup could be cancelled for the first time in its 116-year history.




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[Sandgroper]

Perth Cup (Group II) 3200M - this Thursday at ASCOT

No. Horse Weight Barrier Jockey Trainer
1. True Steel 57.0 10 Troy Jackman Maxine Payne
2. Free At Last 54.5 3 Troy Turner Alan Mathews
3. Celtus 53.5 7 Peter Knuckey Lindsey Smith
4. Superior Star 53.5 9 Jason Brown Neville Parnham
5. Alibi Bay 53.0 8 Craig Staples Paul Miller
6. Caribbean Royale 53.0 1 Trevor Andrews
7. Conspirator 53.0 12 Paul Harvey Lindsey Smith
8. Glitzy Show 53.0 4 Graeme Ballantyne
9. Higgins Gold 53.0 2 Jason Miller Geoff Durrant
10. Indigo King 53.0 13 Bernadine Dudley
11. King Canute 53.0 6 Jason Whiting Lou Luciani
12. Mercedario 53.0 14 Steven Parnham Neville Parnham
13. Personal Drum 53.0 5 Vicki Lane
14. Shoeless 53.0 11 John Claite Alan Mathews


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[MyHatMyCoat]

CELTUS
HIGGINS GOLD
SHOELESS
GLITZY SHOW

[Sandgroper]

Higgins Gold – Well beaten in this race last year but is racing currently in the best form of his career. Ran on last start over 2400m to be beaten 0.75 length by Celtus. Meets Celtus 1.5 kg better in this race. More mature stayer now and should acquit himself well. 5/1 in current fixed odds betting.


Celtus – Perth’s stayer of the moment, winning 5 of last 6. Stepped up to 2400m for the first time last start, showing his fighting qualities to stave off all challengers. Should get a good sit throughout. Looks the one to beat, although at 6/4 in current fixed odds betting is well under true odds.


Conspirator – not won beyond 2200m but has been placed over 2400m. Will be ridden by Paul Harvey, so should be given every chance. EW chance at 14/1 in current fixed odds betting.


Free At Last – honest performer who has won 4 out of last 6 starts. Stepped up to 2400m for the first time last start, running on to be beaten 1.75 length behind Celtus. Meets Celtus 2.5kg worse in this race. At 5/1 in current fixed odds betting, under true odds.


True Steel – a repeat of last start effort (over 2000m) would put this fellow right in the firing line. Can he do it over 3200m? By JEUNE and did lead all the way to take out the Winter Cup (2400m) back in July. Currently 15/2 fixed odds.



Shoeless – On the comeback trail since running 3rd in the 2002 Cup beaten 1.5 lengths. Although unplaced this preparation, has shown glimpses of old form. Set for this race and has done the prep work. EW chance at 16/1 in current fixed odds betting.


King Canute – Ran on strongly to finish a close 4th in this year’s Derby over 2400m. Running on well last start when beaten 4.5 lengths by Celtus over 2400m. Meets Celtus 0.5kg better. Not the roughest but seems under the odds at the current price offered at 7/1.


Glitzy Show –Has performed well (showing good staying signs), since switching to middle distance racing back in September. If you can forgive her last run, at 25/1 a good EW chance.


Mercedario – Hasn’t won past 2200m, but has been placed over 2400m. Battled on fairly last few starts and not badly treated at the weights. Some hope at 20/1.



Alibi Bay – well beaten in the 2002 Cup and recent form well below best. Perhaps a place chance on best form. 50/1 in current market.



Superior Star – Winner of this year’s WA Oaks over 2400m. Last start fought on well when beaten 3 lengths by Celtus over 2400m. Meets Celtus 2.5kg worse in this race. Some chance but under the odds at the current price on offer at 13/1.


Caribbean Royale – well beaten only start over 2400m although has run some nice races over shorter journeys. Battled on well behind Main Stage over 2200m on Saturday. Is a doubt at the trip and looks under the odds at the current price on offer of 18/1.


Indigo King – Has won and been placed over 2400m. Well beaten by Celtus over 2400m two starts back. Showed pace but weakened over 2200m on Saturday. Only a rough chance. Currently showing 40/1.


Personal Drum – currently racing well below best. Has a habit of bobbing up at long odds. Does lack class but may stay the 3200m better than a lot of others. A little EW won’t hurt the bank – currently showing 100/1.


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[BettyBoop]

I'll be treating tomorrow's Perth Cup as just another metrop middle distance race. No offence Sandgroper, but looks pretty poor class to me, even for a Perth Cup - why don't they move it to a better time of the year - to attact some decent interstate stayers?


For me (3) Celtus looks the best chance, but admit pretty short odds.

(2) Free At Last, same owner as Celtus tp give Mrs J M Evans the quinella.

(9) Higgins Gold for third.

(8) Include Glitzy Show for some value.



Also tomorrow like (3) Prince Of Vasac & (7) Corporate Rocket in the 1st. (5) Chaumont in the 2nd. Tri in the 3rd - 1,2 & 4. (12) Pretentious in the 8th & (12) Family Money in the last.

Good luck everyone & have a great new year!

[BettyBoop]

Forgot to comment on what is your best race tomorrow - race 7. Top field of flyers, interesting to see what time they run. Still working out my bets for the race - should get some value.

Anyway, considering most starters have been around for a while, what I found intriguing, is that Secret Remedy, Polygram, Double Jewel & Moon Talk are all wearing blinkers for the 1st time. Seems a little unusual to me anyway :roll:

[Wexford]

I reckon SUPERIOR STAR is the lob.

Back at Ascot and over ground more suitable.

SUPER SPECIAL

[Sandgroper]

Certainly has the pedigree to run out the 2 miles Wexford. After all dad did run 2nd in the Melbourne and Sydney Cups over the distance.

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[Sandgroper]

Current WA Tab win divs

CELTUS $3.00
FREE AT LAST $5.00
HIGGINS GOLD $5.50
KING CANUTE $9.00
TRUE STEEL $10.00
SUPERIOR STAR $14.00
CONSPIRATOR $14.00
CARIBBEAN ROYALE $17.00
MERCEDARIO $21.00
SHOELESS $21.00
ALIBI BAY $35.00
GLITZY SHOW $41.00
INDIGO KING $51.00
PERSONAL DRUM $81.00


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[NANOOK]

Here's the Quartet or pick 4

No 3 Celtus
No 4 Superior Star
No 1 True Steel
No 2 Free at Last

Good Luck

[Rogan Josh]

Nice start Boop, thanks.

[BettyBoop]

No worries Rogan Josh, was a nice price, wasn’t it? Managed 1st & 2nd & 4th in the tri (race 3) Chaumont & Pretentious were both very disappointing & Family Money was scratched. Re my blinkers post (race 7) – I think the results answer my query – didn’t miss out on the omen, boxed them in the multiples :grin:

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[MyHatMyCoat]

PINJARRA TODAY

R1 ROCKATANSKY
R2 SECRET REVENUE
R3 MILLFIELD MISS
R4 TSHOMBIE
R5 CO STRIKER
R6 YESSIREE
R7 BRAZILIAN
R8 VICTORY SIGN

[Sandgroper]

A couple of very close finishes there MyHatMyCoat. Also thought BRAZILIAN a good chance yesterday, with Harvey aboard. Something must have gone amiss with the mare, beaten 9.5 lengths :eek:



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[Sandgroper]

Hey Paddy, are you out there somewhere!?

News is that leading Irish jockey John Egan will be riding in the west for at least 4 weeks, commencing next month. Good to see a touch of blarney heading our way.

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[MyHatMyCoat]

Yes Sandgroper, beaten a lip in races 2 & 3. Start of what to be a most unproductive day :sad: Agree something must have gone amiss with BRAZILIAN – much better than that, likewise TSHOMBIE who also finished well back. Waiting on stewards reports with interest.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Nothing in the stewards report to explain the very poor performances of BRAZILIAN & TSHOMBIE, Sandgroper.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Just added to suspened jockyeys list - Stephen Miller - back the 24th January 2004, Peter Knuckey - back 26th January 2004, Dion Luciani - back 29th January 2004 & Shaun McGruddy - back 21st January 2004. Making room for that irish bloke, Sandgroper :lol:

[Paddy]

John’s a good strong jock Perth Placegetter, in his mid 30s rides around 51kg. Is actually a graduate of the racing academy and centre of education located on the main Dublin road outside Kildare town on the edge of the Curragh plains. In recent times subject of a few controversies, but things have settled down now, & I’m sure he will enjoy his short stay in the west :wink:

[MyHatMyCoat]

Looks like Paul Harvey is not riding at Ascot tomorrow or Bunbury on Thursday. Not suspended as well ?? - I've not heard anything :???:

[umrum]

On 2004-01-13 18:44, MyHatMyCoat wrote:
Looks like Paul Harvey is not riding at Ascot tomorrow or Bunbury on Thursday. Not suspended as well ?? - I've not heard anything :???:

prob just on hols. he often does take time off this time off year. He needs a break he's riding terribly lately.

cheers
umrum

[Sandgroper]

Spot on umrum, Harvey has taken a break, I believe he will be back riding on 24 Jan.

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[MyHatMyCoat]

Thanks umrum / Sandgroper.

Actually think his manager may also need a break. Some of the cattle the pontif has thrown a leg over in recent weeks, don't seem to be up to the normal Harvey standard.

[umrum]

On 2004-01-14 14:46, MyHatMyCoat wrote:
Thanks umrum / Sandgroper.

Actually think his manager may also need a break. Some of the cattle the pontif has thrown a leg over in recent weeks, don't seem to be up to the normal Harvey standard.



yeah durbridge toy first up over 2000m or 2200m was a strange choice of ride.

[Sandgroper]

GERALDTON CUP 2000M on Saturday

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 SPACE AGE (NZ) Neville Parnham S D Parnham (a) 6 58.5
2 KIM LISA M Burnett P King 10 57.5
3 ALIBI BAY P J Miller 8 57
4 BARALAE B J Keys 9 55.5
5 CLASSIC PIECE G B Spowart D Tourneur 17 55.5
6 TOLLESHUNT R K Cowl P B Farrell 4 54.5
7 JEUNE'S FANTASY S J Wolfe 12 54
8 LOWER MONKTON P J Daly Miss T A Zanker (a) 1 54
9 FUSSY SHIFT Mrs V A Lane 18 53.5
10 SPECIAL CLEARANCE (NZ) F Tyler (Jnr) I Fry 7 53.5
11 COLORADO RIVER K R Anderson Ms A D Sansom 5 53
12 IMPAIRE H Williams 3 53
13 NOW'S GOOD (NZ) B J Keys 16 53
14 TAWAN R A Reegan 14 53
15E BIG BANK R M Dowling C J Farrell (a) 13 53
16E HOME DIRECT T R Clancy Ms A C Armes 15 53
17E HONAMI R K Cowl 2 53
18E BELLE DE PLUME J W Price 11 53


Have not rated this race yet, but top four look awfully hard to beat.

Have a healthy respect for the former eastern state's galloper BARALAE. Nice win 2nd up at Pinjarra - 1500m. Has won over 2100m in Vic.

ALIBI BAY freshened up following his unplaced run in the cup, looks nicely weighted.

SPACE AGE an impressive winner on Sat, although wins in WA have been over shorter distances has won over 2100m in the east.

KIM LISA - return to form with the addition of blinkers last start, when running on strongly behind Kentiara in the La Trice Classic (1800m) a couple of weeks back. Has won over 2200m at Ascot.




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[MyHatMyCoat]

Actually the GERALDTON CUP is on Sunday, Sandgroper :wink:

If (1) Space Age repeats his last run, should win.

Like you Sandgroper, have a healthy respect for (4) Baralae.

Not sure about (2) Kim Lisa & (3) Alibi Bay, neither have shown much for a while, but as you have said, Kim Lisa's last run was an improvement on previous starts.

On best form (7) Jeune's Fantasy would go close, last start winner Mt Barker, so now finally back in form, after returning from a long break.

Of the locals, give (5) Classic Piece a strong chance. All 8 wins have been at GERALDTON & has run the odd good race in town.

[Sandgroper]

Yes the cup is on Sunday MyHatMyCoat, my mistake :oops:

After rating this race (there's a few without town form) does look more open than I first thought. If you fancy any of the emergencies and they get a start, not without an EW chance.

I agree with MyHatMyCoat - Jeune's Fantasy & Classic Piece, are also genuine chances.

Good luck if you have a bet.


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[Paddy]

Appreciate the input fellows. I think the NSWTAB is covering Geraldton on Sunday but not all races will be covered by SKY - no doubt the cup will be included at least :wink:

[umrum]

haven't done the form but Alibi Bay will win for mine. Class will be the telling factor.

cheers
umrum

[MyHatMyCoat]

Ascot 17/1/04

R1- SETON HILL
R2- YUKON RUN EW
R3- SOLAR IMPACT EW
R4- CONSTANTINOPLE
R6- WOOL ZONE EW
R8- RULAIN EW

[umrum]

Race 7 No 3 Jashar Boy
No 2 Creatrix
No 19 She Can Tango - if starts(Emg3)

Race 8 No 13 Precious Lady
No 7 Decision To Go
Rulain/My true choice/brush the saint and plea bargain - trifecta hopes plus fav josies show but pretty keen on top two selections e/w.

[Wexford]

BELL DE PLUME for mine.

[anchor]

$1.50 favs. rarely go around in Saturday gallops so what a shocker by Love a Storm today, gone before they straightened.
Looked a tough day, westerners.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Turned out a tough day anchor. Wouldn't write off Love a Storm. I rated on top, but only just, so started way under the odds in my opinion. May have been a bit jaded from her hard 1st up run.

Re my tips, Seton Hill scratched, Solar Impact beaten by a very smart one, Rulain ran a very cheeky race at good odds. The rest disapointing - especially Constantinople. Not suited by slowly run race early & could have been better ridden. Will be watching next start with interest.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Scratched from the cup are FUSSY SHIFT (9), HOME DIRECT (16), HONAMI (17) & BELLE DE PLUME (18) - sticking to tips posted earlier.

[Wexford]

Can any enlighten me on the jockey D A MCLEAN please, before the cup will be apprediated

[Paddy]

07 SWAN DRAUGHT
GERALDTON CUP
2000 Metres
7:20pm
1ST LEG DAILY DOUBLE

WIN/PLACE
11 21.20 4.60
10.............1.70
3.............3.50

QUINELLA 77.20
SPECIAL DIV 24.80
EXACTA 249.40
TRIFECTA 4107.00
FIRST4 NOT WON
(11-10-3-7)
-JACKPOT 1427.16
SPINNER
(MIXED) 1.50

(11) COLORADO RIVER
(10) SPECIAL CLEARANCE
( 3) ALIBI BAY

SCR - 9,16,17,18

Anyone back the winner?

[Sandgroper]

Not me Paddy, best I could do was 3rd.
Didn’t outlay much as it was a race that I couldn’t rate all starters (including 1st and 2nd) – no town form.
Interestingly both 1st and 2nd are ex eastern state performers. The winner has only recently stepped up to distance racing and on retrospect has not had his share of luck in those events. Nice ride by Alana.

According to a mate of mine who was up at Geraldton for the weekend - very successful meeting, great crowd and Rogan Josh (who lead the cup field out) is in fine fettle, given he has been in retirement for a while.


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[Sandgroper]

Re David McLean, Wexford. Heavy-weight jock who has done most of his recent riding in the north of our state – including Broome. Apart from that, can’t add much else.

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[topsy99]

i thought we agreed space age wins coming down in distance not up.

sorry. couldnt help myself.

[Chenille Prince]

You're not the only one topsy99, can't help myself either, one day I'll throw the habit.

In the meantime, let's pile it on, on Saturday - the aussie day cup at Ascot.

[Sandgroper]

Note that John Egan rode at Ascot, Bunbury and Albany over the long weekend. Managed a couple of placings, hopefully his first winner is not too far off. Riding at 52.5kg.

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[Chenille Prince]

N D Parnham’s starters for the weekend

Up in distance:
Ascot 7 no 3 Educated Money


Down in distance:
Ascot 4 no 9 Mercedario
Bunbury 5 no 12 Steely Gaze
Bunbury 9 no 4 Mungbean

Same:
Ascot 3 no 13 Tribella
Ascot 6 no 6 Shotgun Kid
Ascot 7 no 13 Seemingly Rich
Ascot 8 no 9 King Lomond

[Sandgroper]

In this morning's press reported that Chenille Prince is not off for a spell, as originally planned. Racing at Ascot in a couple weeks over 1400m on the road to the WATC Derby (2400m) on April 12. Good luck to connections!





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[Chenille Prince]

What about me Sandgroper, I'm doing all the work :sad:

[Sandgroper]

My apologies Chenille Prince :smile:

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[Chenille Prince]

Thanks Sandgroper, you haven’t seen the best of me yet :wink:

[MyHatMyCoat]

Ascot today

R4 EASTERN STANDARD, MERCEDARIO, ROYAL SONATA
R5 LOCAL PRODUCT, DURBRIDGE TOY, JEUNES FANTASY
R6 REBOTTO, VINDALOO, CONSTANINOPLE
R7 EDUCATED MONEY, DECISION TO GO, DONS RECORD
R8 MAJOR DEAL, POINT OF NO RETURN, CHIEFTILLA

[anchor]

mhmc,
excellent tipping there.
Of the others, thought Eastern Standard had every chance when led easily, and Constantinople was well ridden.

[BettyBoop]

Yes, nice going MyHatMyCoat, 4 winners & a nice profit overall.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Thanks anchor & BettyBoop, makes up a little for my poor recent efforts.

[Chenille Prince]

N D Parnham’s starters for Wednesday (Mt. Barker)

Just the 2, both up in distance:
R2 no 7 Regal Whisper
R7 no 1 Jumallique

[MyHatMyCoat]

Just added to suspened jockyey list - Jason Miller who has received a two-week suspension and Bunbury apprentice Matthew Giadresco who has been banned for 24 days - both for careless riding.

And I note John Egan still to ride his first winner. Suggest still finding his way - aussie style of racing / getting to know the tracks.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Here’s my effort topsy99 :smile:


On 2004-01-18 10:49, MyHatMyCoat wrote:
The rest disappointing - especially Constantinople. Not suited by slowly run race early & could have been better ridden. Will be watching next start with interest.


06 PERTH ICE WORKS
3YO+ TPY
1600 Metres
7:05pm
2ND LEG EXTRA DOUBLE

WIN/PLACE
5 4.70 1.90
7............11.90
17.............7.90

QUINELLA 183.30
EXTRA DOUBLE
(1 - 5) 17.70
EXACTA 269.00
TRIFECTA 13087.90
SPINNER
(ODDS) 19.70

( 5) CONSTANTINOPLE
( 7) OUR BIG PADDY
(17) PRINCE GEORGIOS

SCR - 12,18,19,20

Fast pace + better ridden = real CONSTANTINOPLE

[El Gordo]

I'm expecting a big run from Satin Special in the last race at Mt. Barker tomorrow. Won the same race last year, has the same weight, and will be ridden by Alana Sansom.

Admittedly a better field this year, but she did win very easily last year.

Promising stayer Kyoshi, although not well weighted (imo), will still be hard to beat.

Sulo Warrior another with a strong chance. Just pipped in last years Mt. Barker Cup over 2000m. Later placed in the Albany Cup (behind Kyoshi & Satin Special) & then next start won at Ascot.

Also include (first4) Shy Wild, who stepped up in distance (1800m) last start at Albany, following excellent Ascot form. Made his run way too late on that day (imo) and was only beaten 1.25len.

[Sandgroper]

Looks an open race El Gordo. Would also consider Special Jester and for that matter Warning Tune.

SJ is back in winning form and WT is a multiple city winner over distance.

The Mungrup Sprint is another interesting race, with both Jumallique and Face Your Fears lining up for their 3rd start in the sprint - Jumallique winning in 2002 and Senate Lease lining up for his 2nd tilt.

Not to mention some other promising types in this race, including Bletch Magic & Jarnot.

Looking foward to both races.




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[BettyBoop]

What about the topweight - NOTHING BUT GOLD fellows – I think an EW chance.

In the sprint the MERCURY HALO of old would brain them.

[MyHatMyCoat]

NOTHING BUT GOLD will have it's admirers BettyBoop - ex eastern states performer. Not sure why it is top weight, 2nd in prize money to Special Jester, has won a few in country WA since it's arrival, but stepping up in distance for the first time.

Agree your comments re MERCURY HALO, has been a bit dissapointing since his first couple of starts this campaign.

[El Gordo]

I like Stockie's Yarn & Jarnot in the sprint. Senate Lease & Mercury Halo also amongst the chances, which are many.

[Wexford]

PLEA BARGAIN in the sprint and HEAPS OF CLASS in the distance event

[MyHatMyCoat]

STOCKIE'S YARN & SHIRVIC scratched from the sprint, NIGHT WATCHMAN scratched from the last.

R7 JARNOT, PLEA BARGAIN, MERCURY HALO
R8 SHY WILD, KYOSHI, HEAPS OF CLASS

[BettyBoop]

Just to confuse the issue even more fellows, I'm going to include (9) Chucka Khan & (12) Little Miss Madam - race 7 & (5) Mirror Moon - race 8, in my multiples.

Good luck to all having a bet at Mt. Barker.

[BettyBoop]

CHUCKA KHAN won the sprint (thanks BB) :grin:

Late scratching Jarnot!



WARNING TUNE won the last (thanks Sandgroper) from SATIN SPECIAL (thanks El Gordo) with NOTHING BUT GOLD 3rd (thanks BB)

I finished in front fellows, hope you did as well :smile:

[Sandgroper]

Yes, easy win to Chucka Khan in the sprint BettyBoop. Task made easier with the late withdrawal of Jarnot, who was my top rated. He'll keep till another day :wink:

Warning Tune just pipped Satin Special in the last. Almost the double to Alana. Your prediction almost came off El Gordo - bad luck. Warning Tune is a bit of a in-and-out customer, but on his day, not a bad neddy.


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[Chenille Prince]

N D Parnham’s starters for the weekend

Up in distance:
Ascot 1 no 11 Precious Lady
Ascot 4 no 16 Yukon Run
Ascot 6 no 2 Bit Of A Ride
Ascot 6 no 15 Trimagic
Pinjarra 1 no 6 Regal Whisper
Pinjarra 1 no 8 Sheer Power
Pinjarra 2 no 13 Richman's World
Pinjarra 5 no 1 Trimagic


Down in distance:
Ascot 1 no 16 Seemingly Rich
Ascot 2 no 1 Secret Remedy
Ascot 2 no 4 Civil List
Ascot 2 no 7 Educated Money
Ascot 7 no 8 Fitzroy Flyer
Pinjarra 4 no 1 This 'n' That
Pinjarra 7 no 8 Typhoon Fille


Same:
Ascot 4 no 8 Eutri
Ascot 5 no 2 Space Age
Ascot 7 no 10 Crystal Clear
Pinjarra 4 no 14 The Truth Hurts
Pinjarra 7 no 6 Lombo Choice
Pinjarra 8 no 7 Sweet Dreams



And perhaps a little EW Ascot 3 no 14 Mighty Smart. Raced more truely with the addition of blinkers last start. Ran on well after an early check :wink:

[Magoo]

Noticed Metal Reign makes a return to WA racing at Ascot today Race 1 with a nice odds quote in the morning line 10/1. Based on past times and first up record, it's a good bet.

Time will tell...

[MyHatMyCoat]

ALBANY CUP TODAY.

SATIN SPECIAL, JEUNES FANTASY, KYOSHI, SPECIAL JESTER

[anchor]

Looking at the metro jockey stats, with Paul Harvey's 4 rides yesterday it now makes it 30 consecutive losing rides. Still the leader by 7 from JWhiting.

[Sandgroper]

Yes anchor, Harvey's last city winner was on Relocate way back on new year's day. Looking at all rides, his last win was back on the 8th Feb at Pinjarra - 17 consecutive losing rides since that date :eek: and John Egan still winless after 23 rides in WA :sad:

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[MyHatMyCoat]

JEUNES FANTASY failed to finish, very poor run by SATIN SPECIAL :???: , KYOSHI & SPECIAL JESTER filled the placings behind the winner OUR PAL BLUEY. :sad:

[Sandgroper]

The pontiff finally back in the (city) winners list, but now suspended until midnight Saturday 6th March :roll:

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[MyHatMyCoat]

SPECIAL JESTER looks poor value in today's Esperance Cup if he starts anywhere near the odds quoted in this morning's press.

I like WARNING TUNE from OHIO, RAPID RANCHER & BAY REWARD.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Main 2 races at Pinjarra today -

Race 6 (Matchmaker) -
MARKET WRAP, BONNIE BRAE, SEEKING QUALITY & (VALUE) MAGISSA

Race 7 (Sprint) -
HOT SHOT BROTHER, KAMES HOPE, POLYGRAM & KAPRATS

[Desi]

R2 at Pinjarra, Stage Doll will be at short odds but Vern and Alana have a good combo going...Good luck!

[Sandgroper]

Surprised you have not included Poziere (R6) and Mr Callahan (R7) in your selections, MyHatMyCoat.

I'd also be including Proven Destiny (R6) in the multiples - although better suited over a bit more ground, may be fresh enough to run a good race - listed at 30/1 this morning.

Lombo Choice (R8) looks nicely placed EW, and Overmaster (R9) could surprise EW at good odds (listed at 50/1) with young Pike on top.

In the Esperance Cup, I would include Mr Debernals. This horse was not beaten far in last year's cup, finishing 3rd just behind a couple of handy horses in Miller's Fancy and Kyoshi.

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[loadandlockett]

kames hope to run a good race!!!!!

[Desi]

Thanks for Kames Hope L and L...hope you had a look at Stage Doll...more moolah for me Carton Super pints...keep em coming!

[Sandgroper]

Nice tip Desi, 1st and 2nd in the cup MyHatMyCoat :wink:

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[anchor]

Looking at some divis today noticed at Pinjarra R6 the following.......

Winner NSWTAB UNiTAB SuperTAB
Chicago's Fire 16.60 10.70 33.10

Another case for 'best TAB divi' however long they last(hopefully until the TABS merge).

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[MyHatMyCoat]

Mt Barker today-

R5 (3) SPEED DANCER, (7) SALVESON, (5) GUN BARREL BLUE, (8) CORPORATE NEPTUNE
R6 (2) STOCKIES YARN, (4) METAL AS ANYTHING, (9) SATIN SPECIAL, (5) LITTLE MISS MADAM

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[Desi]

Great picks MyHatMyCoat...put me ahead for the day...

[BettyBoop]

Echo Desi's comment MyHatMyCoat, you got both winners in your top 2 picks, paying $6 & $20.10 Thanks. Thought Blondelle a very easy winner in the last, should be more wins coming.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Thanks Desi & BettyBoop - Nice overs for METAL AS ANYTHING on the NSW TAB, certainly pays to shop around.

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[Desi]

I'm with Ozbet...how hard is it to link up with the other TABS etc?

[MyHatMyCoat]

I have an account with Ozbet & the NSW TAB, Desi. From memory applied online with the NSW TAB & then faxed them copies of necessary ID items - deposit by credit card or BPay, withdraw via cheque.

[Desi]

Thanks for the assistance MyHatMycoat...I noticed sometimes that there can be considerable differences with the Divvies between states and that can affect profit margins..its hard enough trying to get on a winner..

[Shaun]

hey Desi....forget the tabs....use one of the online betting agencies that offer best price of all tabs e-mail me and i will give you some links....

shaun2166@msn.com

[Desi]

Cheers Shaun, will do!

[Chenille Prince]

Looking to bounce back after last start very disappointing run :wink:

[Paddy]

Excellent effort Chenille Prince, flooding home after racing wide for a greater part of the race – back on track :wink:

[Chenille Prince]

Yeh Paddy, a bit more luck & who knows :sad:
At least we are back on track :smile:

[MyHatMyCoat]

Pinjarra today -

Race 1 - SONIC CRUISER, TENNILLA, CALIFORNIUM, RACZEE ROZEE
Race 2 - TSHOMBIE, CORPORATE SAM, MAJOR KEY, HOTEL CASUARINA
Race 5 - KILROE, MUNGBEAN, REIGNING FORT, PROVEN DESTINY
Race 6 - FROZEN ASSETS, WESTERN WARRIOR, SEEMINGLY RICH, ARABASH
Race 7 - MAIN STAGE, LOAD AND LOCKETT, CRIMSON SAKURA, KIWI HOMBRE
Race 8 - PALE DANCER, METAL AS ANYTHING, GRAND CAVALIER, SCRAP METAL
Race 9 - FAMILY MONEY, REGAL TACTIC, STONE MAN, CHIEFSTON

[collingwood]

MyHatMyCoat

Thanks for your tips - you are on fire so far. Just backed Mungbean at $5.00 and Kilcoe at $6.00 for the place.

You have nearly talked me out of Kentiara in the 7th but i will still back it with your first couple of tips as savers. Once again well done on your tips so far.

Cheers
Collingwood

[Merriguy]

Hear, hear! And two out of three for the tris! Congrats.

[collingwood]

Another winner - Main Stage at over $10. Backed your 2 top picks and Kentiara and also boxed the 3 in a 20 unit exacta which paid $110 with IAS!!! A huge collect on the race.

Thanks once again.

Cheers
Collingwood

[collingwood]

Don't know why IAS aren't betting on the last?

MyHatMyCoat they must have heard about your tipping prowess today and packed up shop.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Thanks Collingwood & Merriguy. We did OK in 3 of the 7 races – enough to finish in front, depending on how you punted. Selections in the other 4 races not all too flash, some very disappointing runs - CALIFORNIUM did manage a place at nice odds in the 1st, same for SEEMINGLY RICH in the 6th. That’s racing.

[Desi]

Geez! Wish I had seen your picks MyHat MyCoat before I made my bets needed some of your place bets and I would have struck a few trifectas...c'est la vie! Next time as they always say...

[Paddy]

Looks like John Egan has completed his working holiday in WA, winless :eek: No doubt John & those concerned would be a litte disappointed.

[Legend18]

Any tips for ascot tomorrow guys? Look at Tribella's barrier draw... poor thing..

[Desi]

Legend, Moontalk in the first is a course and distance specialist....SJ Millers back riding and of course Vern is a top trainer...short odds unfortunately...good luck and good punting!

[Paddy]

Redwoldt looks under odds in the 3rd, not saying he can't win, but he will have to work hard with the likes of My Leo & Seton Hill (value) hard to beat.

In race 6 I was impressed with the last start winning performance of Lilac Hill. If she can handle the step up to weekend class, could easily make it 3 in a row.

Tribulations in the last, looks a good EW be

[Legend18]

Yep Moon Talk looks good for me. And Redwoldt definately will be under the odds, so my moneys on My Leo. Race 4's pretty tough.. Rulain's finally drawn a decent barrier so maybe this is his race.

Race 5, Covertly and Foxaround too short for me.. So I'll go Miss Dansk who ran a good 2nd behind Foxaround.

Race 6, well.. who knows :sad:

[Paddy]

Bunbury Stakes (1400M) - Tuesday

1 Finito 12 56.5 Daniel Staeck P H Humann
2 Tribula 10 56.5 Alana Sansom A H Mortimer
3 Kaprats 13 56 Jason Brown W L Radford
4 Early Express 16 55.5 Paul Harvey P J Giadresco
5 Mapperholic 4 55.5 Peter Hall S J Wolfe
6 Corporate Bruce 3 55 Kristian Hawkins H S Mc Laren
7 Kame's Hope 11 54 William Arnold C H Webster
8 Kensyl Bay 6 54 Shaun Mc Gruddy T W Widdeson
9 Mr. Callahan 5 54 Kevin Forrester M Campbell
10 Hot Shot Brother 9 53.5 Paul King P H Jordan
11 Polygram 2 53.5 John Claite C K Ward
12 Twilight Spy SCRATCHED
13 Poliwhirl 7 52 Patrick Carbery S L Miller
14 Stockie's Yarn 14 52 William Pike P B Hunter
15 Tribal Secret 1 52 Lacey Morrison M L Williams
16 Zoloto 15 SCRATCHED
17 Fred Who 8 52 Jason Whiting B R Larsson




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[Paddy]

CURRENT OzBET FIXED ODDS

MAPPERHOLIC $3.80
HOT SHOT BROTHER $4.60
FINITO $8.00
KAMES HOPE $9.00
EARLY EXPRESS $11.00
KAPRATS $13.00
MR CALLAHAN $14.00
TRIBULA $15.00
POLIWHIRL $17.00
TRIBAL SECRET $17.00
POLYGRAM $26.00
STOCKIES YARN $35.00
CORPORATE BRUCE $35.00
KENSYL BAY $41.00
FRED WHO $41.00

[Paddy]

MAPPERHOLIC from HOT SHOT BROTHER & FINITO.
EW value bet STOCKIE'S YARN.

[Legend18]

Go HOT SHOT BROTHER! Mr Callahan or Kaprats places as well :smile:

[Chenille Prince]

If I can get EW odds for Hot Shot Brother, I'll be more than happy. A little saver on Polygram EW.

[BettyBoop]

Quite a number here like the Bunbury track – Finito, Polygram & Poliwhirl are all undefeated at the track. Early Express, Kensyl Bay, Mr Callahan & Fred Who, have all raced well at Bunbury previously. Both Kensyl Bay & Fred Who are likely to be very good odds.

I’m expecting Paul Harvey to take Early Express to an early lead from a very wide draw and be very hard to beat. Think Hot Shot Brother will sit on the pace, and be just a little too strong. Mapperholic for 3rd. Have to have a little EW on one of my favs – Tribula with Alana onboard.

[Raw Instinct]

I like Poliwhirl, Tribal Secret, Finito and Mapperholic going to have some on Poliwhirl though with a triffecta.

[Raw Instinct]

Well sure enough the horse I have probably backed the most in WA Finito gets up and wins the one time I decide not to back it at a great price to oh will I ever learn.

[Paddy]

07 CUSTOM IRRIGATN
BUNBURY 3YO+ STK
1400 Metres
6:55pm
2ND LEG EXTRA DOUBLE


WIN/PLACE
1 19.30 2.80
5...............1.80
11...............4.60

QUINELLA (1-5) 29.90
EXACTA (1-5) 66.70
TRIFECTA
(1-5-11) 649.40
SPINNER (Odds) 2.30
FIRST 4
(1-5-11-7) 6,114.10
EXTRA DOUBLE (1-1) 100.00
SPECIAL DIV. (1-SCR) 4.70

(1) FINITO (D.STAECK)
(5) MAPPERHOLIC (P.HALL)
(11) POLYGRAM (J.CLAITE)

SCR - 12,16,17



Well I've got my drinkin money for tomorrow :grin:

[Legend18]

Well well... wat a poor poor race by Hot Shot Brother. Extremely dissappointing! Wat was with him constantly losing ground b4 the straight??? Lucky I didn't put too much on him.. good race to Finito though... poor u Raw Instinct :sad:

[Paddy]

BUNBURY CUP - 2200M - Tomorrow

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barr Wgt Pen
1 MAIN STAGE A R Taylor T K Jackman 16 59.5 1.5
2 KENTIARA R N Harvey (Jnr) S L O'Donnell 10 58
3 ZAHEED R S Taylor S F Mc Gruddy 14 53.5
4 LOAD AND LOCKETT Colin Webster J S Whiting 9 53
5 WOOL ZONE Ross Price P J Harvey 13 53
6 CLAN NOBLE (NZ) B V Watkins 15 52
7 DE LA HOYA M Storer T Ikenushi (a) 8 52
8 DUNDALLY J M Busslinger S D Parnham (a) 6 52
9 HALOPAK P H Jordan P King 7 52
10 KIWI HOMBRE (NZ) Alan Mathews P J Carbery 1 52
11 LOCAL PRODUCT I J Thompson W A Pike (a) 3 52
12 MAJOR DEAL W H Godecke J J Brown 5 52
13 PARIS BANK B R Larsson P B Farrell 12 52
14 PRICELESS MATT Fred Kersley 11 52
15 SABOTEUR J R Bull 19 52
16 SPECIAL JESTER C M Wolfe 4 52
17E NATIONAL SILK Colin Webster C L Staples 18 52
18E BRIGALOW W J Miller D R Miller (Snr) 17 52
19E FUSSY SHIFT Mrs V A Lane D J Staeck 2 52
20E IRON MONGER Mrs A J Smith P J Black 20 52

[Paddy]

Hot Shot Brother - 2nd last, beaten over 10 lens - completely out of character - something must have gone amiss :???:

[Paddy]

A couple for St. Patrick's Day - enjoy the day if you are celebrating (I'm the one without the inside-out T, Mr Guinness) :wink:

[Paddy]

Paddy was driving his lorry when he saw a bridge with a sign saying 10 foot max. headroom.

He slowed down wondering if he could drive under it or not , 'A shure I'll give it a go,he thought only to find that his lorry got stuck underneath it.

Paddy sat back in his seat, poured out a cup of tea and lit a cigarette.

A policeman arrived a short time later and knocked on the cab door which Paddy then opened, 'what do you think you are doing? asked the policeman in a sharp tone,

'Sure I'm having me tea break, replied Paddy,

'And what do you work at? asked the policeman,



'Agh shure I deliver bridges,! smiled Paddy!


:lol:

[Paddy]

Paddy and Mick were nailing up the side of a wooden house.

Mick noticed that Paddy was examining the nails and throwing away every second and third.


'What's wrong with the nails?' he asked.

'Sure the heads are at the wrong end.'

'You are stupid you idiot, can't you see they are for the other side of the house!.

:lol:

[Chenille Prince]

Not bad Paddy :smile:


I’m tipping Wool Zone. Caught wide most of the way in the Pinjarra Cup, but still managed a place. Even fitter following that run – he’ll do me EW at the 11/2 currently on offer. Load and Lockett, Main Stage & Kentiara to fight out the places.

[Chenille Prince]

Yeah, a shocker by Hot Shot Brother :smile:

[BettyBoop]

Hope I can improve on yesterday's effort :roll:

Main Stage, racing in very best form, the one to beat. Wool Zone a big danger. Local Product for 3rd. Include Kiwi Hombre at value.

And good luck to L&L - undefeated at Bunbury.

[loadandlockett]

loadandlockett will run the race of his life.......go you good thing!!!!

[Paddy]

Come on, close those blinds, not so heavy on the keyboard – some of us are a bit seedy this morning. :cool:

Bad enough writing oneself off, but certainly doesn’t help matters when you’ve finally running out of drinkin money, when along comes the omen bet of the day - KILLARNEY MAGIC & DANCING PADDY in Ballarat dog 6. We made a nice profit & of course continued on drinkin – oh my head! :roll:

For what it’s worth (not thinking straight) suggest Kentiara the one to beat today. Load and Lockett strong chance if you forget his last run failure. Main Stage and Wool Zone to fill the top 4.

Luck in running to L&L :smile:


Now excuse me I feel an up-&-under coming on. :sad:

[Paddy]

That's a bit better!

Now before I go have a lay down, (14) Lombo Choice EW in the 9th & (7) Grand Cavalier & (13) Tribulations EW in the last :wink:

[ginger]

hi everyone
i'm partial to last start winners and this ones form around 2000-2200 isn't too bad( but not good around bunbury)
bunbury r7
#8 dundally from
#1 main stage
#4 L + L
cya

[Legend18]

I think dundally should run a good race.. I was very impressed when he edged out Noon on saturday.. and therefore looks like he'll appreciate the extra distance. Dundally or Load and Lockett for me, and i suppose i have to chuck main stage 3rd in as well :smile:

[umrum]

Main Stage and Kentiara the "main" two to beat again.

[Legend18]

Woohoooooooo Load And Lockett!!! Wat a race!

[kenchar]

L+L YOU BLOODY RIPPER

[Paddy]

07 SWAN DRAUGHT
BUNBURY CUP
2200 Metres
6:50pm
1ST LEG DAILY DOUBLE


WIN/PLACE
4 9.20 2.80
2...............2.50
8...............3.80

QUINELLA (2-4) 27.30
EXACTA (4-2) 84.40
TRIFECTA
(4-2-8) 594.90
SPINNER (Evens) 6.80
FIRST 4
(4-2-8-10) 5,456.80

(4) LOAD AND LOCKETT (J.WHITING)
(2) KENTIARA (S.O'DONNELL)
(8) DUNDALLY (S.PARNHAM)

SCR - 6,12,14,15
16


Talk about a fighting spirit! MAGIC!!! Forgot my hangover & all :lol:

The race of his life, loadandlockett, not an overstatement!


Thanks for the input loadandlockett :wink:

What a great thread! Winner, winners, winners!

Congratulations to all those who continually post & thanks.

[Chenille Prince]

Enjoy the moment loadandlockett, I certainly did :smile:

How was the old heart going, as they hit the line?

[MyHatMyCoat]

A great couple of days - just love Bunbury this time of year. Just got back, already looking forward to next year.

What a finish, thought Dundally was going to win at one stage - top ride by young Parnham - great rails run, looked to hit the lead momentarily, but the other two fought back.

What's next loadandlockett, out for a well deserved spell.

_________________
OH GOLLY GOSH!

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[Desi]

Congrats Load and Lockett...hope the night is a big one! Have a couple of Emus for me mate!

[Chenille Prince]

Not one of Harvey's best rides :roll: but still on track :wink:


WATC DERBY

LIST OF FIRST DECLARATIONS
BLACK TOM 3C ...........56.0
CELEBRITY LINE 3G ......56.0
CHENILLE PRINCE 3G .....56.0
CROWN PROSECUTOR 3G ....56.0
CYCLONE BAY 3G .........56.0
FEUDAL LORD 3G .........56.0
FLYING EAST 3G .........56.0
HOTEL CASUARINA 3G .....56.0
JUST FOR SAM 3G ........56.0
KNIGHT ACADEMY 3G ......56.0
KUNDALINI 3G ...........56.0
LAETARE 3G .............56.0
LEMONADE DASH 3G .......56.0
MAGIC ACES 3G ..........56.0
MAJOR IMPACT 3G ........56.0
MARSHALL VIC 3G ........56.0
MASTER VISION 3G .......56.0
MOONBUGGY(NZ) 3G .......56.0
MR SANDGROPER 3G .......56.0
MUNGOJERRIE(NZ) 3G .....56.0
MYSTIC FORCE 3G ........56.0
SIESTA BAY 3G ..........56.0
SPANISH GRILL 3G .......56.0
SUMMER WAVE 3G .........56.0
ROCKATANSKY 3G .........56.0
SAN KOO(NZ) 3G .........56.0
SENECA 3G ..............56.0
FATAL ATTRACTION 3F ....53.5
KYMTU 3F ...............53.5
MOONFIRE 3F ............53.5
PENNYWEST 3F ...........53.5
PENTAMEROUS(NZ) 3F .....53.5
SPIRIT LADY 3F .........53.5
STORYLAND(NZ) 3F .......53.5
SWEET MAREBELLE 3F .....53.5

TOTAL DECLARATIONS: 35

[Sandgroper]

The list is growing.

Richard Caddies suspended until midnight Monday April 5.

Ivo Fry suspended until midnight Thursday April 3.

William Pike suspended until midnight Sunday April 11.

Misty Parsons had been suspended earlier - until midnight Saturday March 27, as was Jason Miller & Troy Turner, with both returning Friday this week.

Yes Chenille Prince, not one of Harvey's better rides, does seem to be a bit out-of-form :???:

_________________
All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

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[Paddy]

Nice little 2YO race coming up

KARRAKATTA PLATE 2004
Order of Entry
as at March 23rd
1 COVERTLY 2F $77,840
2 FOXAROUND 2F $68,540
3 REFEMME 2F $47,080
4 MISS DANSK 2F $39,650
5 STORMY NOVA 2F $38,080
6 DANNY BLUE 2G $29,120
7 LOCAL LEGEND 2G $29,100
8 STARGLOW EXPRESS 2F $27,630
9 REDWOLDT 2G $26,690
10 MR CHARM 2G $26,600
11 CLONAKILTY(NZ) 2F $23,140
12 SCOTTISH STORM 2F $19,040
13 METALDALE 2C $15,345
14 MY LEO 2G $12,600
15 VOLITION 2C $10,170
16 JONCANDY 2G $9,250
17 ENDESA 2F $9,010
18 THE BLACK CIGAR 2C $8,100
19 LUST FOR DUST 2F $7,560
20 PRICE REGAL 2G $5,040
21 CAPITAL PUNISHMENT 2F $4,725
22 WILD TARGET 2G $4,200
23 PRICE MONGER 2G $3,795
24 BOARDROOM BABE 2F $3,080
25 SIERRA GORDA 2G $2,160
26 HENNESSY BABE 2F $560
27 MASTER MINX 2G $540
ALICIA MARIE 2F
CALMBEFORETHESTORM 2C
CLASSY GRACE 2F
COLLEGIAN 2G
DESIGNER STAR 2G
GOLDEN BUSINESS 2G
HOLD YOUR HENNESSY 2F
MONACO STAR 2F
PIRATE OF PENZANCE 2C
RUN BENNY RUN 2G
TRAKAVICA 2G
WOTWEONIT 2G
TOTAL DECLARATIONS: 39

[Chenille Prince]

Race 1 (3) Siesta Bay (8) Major Impact (11) Zakarak (10) Spanish Grill
Race 2 (8) Bon Royalle (7) Truck Talk (3) Bleepak (5) Le Tru Noir
Race 3 (4) Redwoldt (2) Danny Blue (6) Metaldale (3) Mr Charm
Race 4 (11) Essential Terms (4) Jarnot (7) Williams Steal (3) Fred Who
Race 5 (3) Cristobal (1) Air Pocket (4) Magic Pass (7) Lilac Hill
Race 6 (4) Scottish Storm (5) Miss Dansk (3) Refemme (8) Capital Punishment
Race 7 (1) Finito (4) Mapperholic (11) Twilight Spy (7) Kames Hope
Race 8 (9) Miss Polygraph (4) My Thornbird (2) Field Commander (6) Reprime

[Chenille Prince]

Race 1 (3) Siesta Bay – 2nd (8) Major Impact – 1st (11) Zakarak (10) Spanish Grill
Race 2 (8) Bon Royalle (7) Truck Talk (3) Bleepak – 1st (5) Le Tru Noir
Race 3 (4) Redwoldt – 1st (2) Danny Blue (6) Metaldale – 2nd (3) Mr Charm
Race 4 (11) Essential Terms – 3rd (4) Jarnot – 1st (7) Williams Steal (3) Fred Who
Race 5 (3) Cristobal (1) Air Pocket (4) Magic Pass – 1st (7) Lilac Hill
Race 6 (4) Scottish Storm – 3rd (5) Miss Dansk (3) Refemme – 1st (8) Capital Punishment
Race 7 (1) Finito (4) Mapperholic – 2nd (11) Twilight Spy (7) Kames Hope
Race 8 (9) Miss Polygraph – 1st (4) My Thornbird (2) Field Commander (6) Reprime

[Paddy]

Volition, Price Regal & Purple Vision should fight out todays' Heytesbury Stud Classic at Pinjarra :wink:

[Chenille Prince]

Tend to agree with you Paddy.
On paper look the main chances.
A couple of unraced - maybe watch any betting move.
James The Jet & perhaps Lust For Dust, should be suited by the step up in distance.

[Paddy]

Thanks Chenille Prince, glad you dropped in :smile:

[Chenille Prince]

No worries Paddy.

Paid $39.80 & $6.30 over here, couldn't resist :grin:

Noticed paid a lot less in NSW You must have plonked a bit on Paddy! :smile:

[Paddy]

On 2004-03-28 19:57, Chenille Prince wrote:
No worries Paddy.

Paid $39.80 & $6.30 over here, couldn't resist :grin:

Noticed paid a lot less in NSW You must have plonked a bit on Paddy! :smile:



Yeh I wish jelly fish :smile:

[Paddy]

You can add Daniel Staeck to the suspended jocks list Sandgroper, just copped 6 weeks.

[Paddy]

WA Oaks (2400M) final acceptors (race this Sat) and early riding engagements


Amica Belle
Bolasque
Fatal Attraction, P Harvey
Happy Talk, J Miller
Hecatomb, J Whiting
Kymtu
Miss Memphis
Moonfire, T Turner
Pennywest, J Brown
Pentamerous, L Robertson
Spirit Lady
Stage Doll, A Sansom
Storyland, P Knuckey



At first glance Stage Doll, Pennywest & Moonfire look the main hopes.

[Paddy]

Can only see just the 2 rides for the pontiff today at Ascot - most surprising!

[Paddy]

Prices at: 12:54:42, 2 Apr 2004
No. Selection Win Place
002 Pennywest $3.25 $0.00
003 Stage Doll $4.25 $0.00
001 Spirit Lady $6.00 $0.00
004 Moonfire $7.00 $0.00
006 Kymtu $8.00 $0.00
010 Hecatomb $8.00 $0.00
013 Fatal Attraction $13.00 $0.00
007 Miss Memphis $26.00 $0.00
008 Bolasque $34.00 $0.00
009 Pentamerous $41.00 $0.00
011 Storyland $41.00 $0.00
005 Happy Talk $67.00 $0.00
012 Amica Bella $101.00 $0.00

[Paddy]

Will stick to my original thoughts - Stage Doll, Pennywest & Moonfire.

Field looks a little below par for a Grp II.

What chance the lightly raced Fatal Attraction with the pontiff on top?

[partypooper]

Well if you fancy Stage Doll, you'd have to at least have a saver on the "pontif" ...but lightly raced maiden?, who knows, the girls can do funny things with a bit of sun on their backs, and it's forcast 30c tomorrow.

But MY choice for what it's worth is Kymtu

[Paddy]

Thanks partypooper. Yes Kymtu has done nothing wrong. Also lightly raced & was running on OK last start over 2200M. Will include.

[Paddy]

STRICKLAND STAKES Grp II (1800M) at Ascot today - nice field:

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barr Wgt Pen
1 FINITO P H Humann D J Staeck 5 58
2 CORPORATE BRUCE Hec Mc Laren K M Hawkins 7 58
3 LAWMAKER B W Mc Donald P J Harvey 4 58
4 MAIN STAGE A R Taylor T K Jackman 9 58
5 SPECIAL JESTER C M Wolfe D A O'Heare 8 58
6 ZAHEED R S Taylor S F Mc Gruddy 1 58
7 KIWI HOMBRE (NZ) Alan Mathews P J Carbery 2 58
8 WOOL ZONE Ross Price S J Miller 10 58
9 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant J F Miller 3 55.5
10 CHENILLE PRINCE Dennis Ramsay T K Turner 6 54.5

[Paddy]

Prices at: 09:57:02, 3 Apr 2004
No. Selection Win Place
001 Finito $3.40 $0.00
009 Dedicated Miss $3.40 $0.00
004 Main Stage $3.75 $0.00
010 Chenille Prince $8.00 $0.00
003 Lawmaker $13.00 $0.00
002 Corporate Bruce $16.00 $0.00
008 Wool Zone $16.00 $0.00
007 Kiwi Hombre $17.00 $0.00
005 Special Jester $26.00 $0.00
006 Zaheed $41.00 $0.00

[Paddy]

What can I say, Dedicated Miss to continue on her winning way. Finito suited by the step up in distance. Main Stage to improve on his last start effort. Lawmaker for 4th.

[Chenille Prince]

Yes Paddy Dedicated Miss does look almost a special, if she repeats her last run. I've just got a slight doubt over the 1800M though.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Corporate Bruce return to some form, his last run wasn't all that bad.

And don't dismiss CP, not well in on the weights, but improving all the time :wink:

[Paddy]

06 BURSWOD CASINO WA
OAKS 3YOF
2400 Metres
6:05pm
2ND LEG EXTRA DOUBLE


WIN/PLACE
13 9.50 2.20
2...............1.30
12..............28.30

QUINELLA (2-13) 10.50
EXACTA (13-2) 30.20
TRIFECTA
(13-2-12) 1,823.10
SPINNER (Mixed) 5.60
FIRST 4
(13-2-12-8) 15,256.60
EXTRA DOUBLE (6-13) 68.50
SPECIAL DIV. (6-SCR) 4.20

(13) FATAL ATTRACTION (P.HARVEY)
(2) PENNYWEST (JASON BROWN)
(12) AMICA BELLA (T.JACKMAN)

SCR - NIL

Thank you Mr Pontiff & the encouragement partypooper :smile:

[Paddy]

07 STRICKLAND STK WFA
1800 Metres
6:40pm
1ST LEG DAILY DOUBLE


WIN/PLACE
9 3.30 1.30
4...............2.00
8...............4.40

QUINELLA (4-9) 8.30
EXACTA (9-4) 19.00
TRIFECTA
(9-4-8) 231.60
SPINNER (Mixed) 3.40
FIRST 4
(9-4-8-6) 4,017.10

(9) DEDICATED MISS (J.MILLER)
(4) MAIN STAGE (T.JACKMAN)
(8) WOOL ZONE (STEPHEN MILLER)

SCR - NIL


I don't know about you folk out there but I'm havin a ball :smile: Another slice of the FIRST 4 - a bit bigger this time :grin:

[partypooper]

Well done Paddy, wish I'd taken the pointer but .... no

But I did have a good day, with both of my ratings based methods showing a profit and my PLACE system (detailed in Systems forum coming up with 100%) can't do much better than that,........ ok, ok yes I know thats only one day .. but still Prince Of Vasac paid VERY well

[Paddy]

You ARE going extra well partypooper :wink: especially for a luney tune :lol:

[Paddy]

Shaun McGruddy out till 19th April, Elly Dredge out till 4th May.

[Paddy]

6-4.00 HEALTHWAY-KARRAKATTA PLATE 1200 M
Of $304000 Of $300000 and $4000 trophies. First $204000 and trophies of $2000 to owner $1000 to trainer $1000 to jockey, second $54000, third $27000, fourth $9000, fifth $6000. (GROUP II) For two years old. No allowances for apprentices.
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No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barr Wgt Pen
1 REDWOLDT Lou Luciani J S Whiting 15 56
2 DANNY BLUE T M Andrews T K Turner 14 56
3 LOCAL LEGEND J W Price P King 17 56
4 MR CHARM P D Wagg J P Claite 3 56
5 METALDALE Fred Kersley P J Carbery 6 56
6 VOLITION P H Jordan 16 56
7 THE BLACK CIGAR D Thom S L O'Donnell 19 56
8 MY LEO M W Pateman J F Miller 8 56
9 WILD TARGET C A Stelmach P B Farrell 5 56
10 PRICE REGAL S J Wolfe 1 56
11 COVERTLY S R Bates P J Harvey 13 53.5
12 REFEMME G E Daly P D Knuckey 12 53.5
13 MISS DANSK P J Miller I Fry 2 53.5
14 STORMY NOVA V A Brockman Ms A D Sansom 7 53.5
15 LUST FOR DUST P D Tapper 4 53.5
16 ENDESA V A Brockman J J Brown 10 53.5
17E PRICE MONGER J C Byrne D A O'Heare 18 56
18E HENNESSY BABE D R Harrison 9 53.5
19E MASTER MINX R C Mc Pherson 11 56

[Paddy]

VOLITION an early scratching.

The girls look a wee bit stronger than the fellas.

COVERTLY (with the pontiff aboard) just over REFEMME.
COVERTLY meets REFEMME better at the weights & should turn the table. Both drawn a bit wide, but hopefully will settle around midfield, and be too strong for the rest in the run home.

Best of the fellas - LOCAL LEGEND & REDWOLDT. Both also drawn wide but should have the pace to settle just off the lead.

The undefeated STORMY NOVA has blinkers added & is worth throwing into your multiples.

[Paddy]

Are you guys on holiday over there in the west? Not seen much of you of late! Any thoughts on the KARRAKATTA PLATE.

What about the Derby on Monday - not a bad field.

[Paddy]

6-3.40 W.A.T.C. DERBY 2400 M
Of $308000 Of $300000 and $8000 trophies. First $204000 and trophies of $4000 to owner $2000 to trainer $2000 to jockey, second $54000, third $27000, fourth $9000, fifth $6000. (GROUP I) For three years old. No allowances for apprentices.
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No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barr Wgt Pen
1 LAETARE E A Martinovich P J Carbery 5 56
2 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards P King 1 56
3 MAGIC ACES P J Giadresco J S Whiting 13 56
4 MYSTIC FORCE Lindsey Smith W A Pike (a) 10 56
5 CROWN PROSECUTOR Lindsey Smith G L Smith 8 56
6 CHENILLE PRINCE Dennis Ramsay T K Turner 12 56
7 ROCKATANSKY D C Munt Ms A D Sansom 9 56
8 JUST FOR SAM S Ruffino J P Claite 3 56
9 BLACK TOM B G Lucas P Hall 6 56
10 SPIRIT LADY Fred Kersley W B Arnold 7 53.5
11 PENNYWEST D Morton J J Brown 14 53.5
12 FATAL ATTRACTION Lindsey Smith P J Harvey 2 53.5
13 KYMTU J C Byrne S L O'Donnell 4 53.5
14 MOONFIRE Lindsey Smith K Forrester 15 53.5
15 PENTAMEROUS (NZ) Shane A Edwards L A Robertson 11 53.5

[Legend18]

Covertly to win the Karrakatta Plate.. no doubt about it.. Refemme close up 2nd

[Raw Instinct]

I like Covertly and Refemme aswell and I think Laetare in the Derby

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Hi Paddy

Not really into Perth races but Mr Sandgroper and Chenille Prince sounds like a good quinella to me.

[partypooper]

Paddy, I agree that Covertly looks VERY good, especially for the place (odds permitting) but can I ask your "expert" opinion about Field Commander in the last? as although it does not come up as a top rating, my gut feeling is that is was at the very least "inconvenienced" at the start (last start) to tell you the truth I couldn't believe it didn't run a place , but there you go??????

[Paddy]

Prices at: 07:49:27, 9 Apr 2004
No. Selection Win Place
112 Covertly $3.60 $0.00
108 Redwoldt $4.00 $0.00
117 Refemme $5.25 $0.00
118 Stormy Nova $9.00 $0.00
101 Local Legend $11.00 $0.00
111 Wild Target $11.00 $0.00
103 Metaldale $13.00 $0.00
107 Price Regal $15.00 $0.00
109 The Black Cigar $26.00 $0.00
115 Lust for Dust $41.00 $0.00
102 Master Minx 3em $51.00 $0.00
105 My Leo $51.00 $0.00
106 Price Monger 1em $51.00 $0.00
113 Endesa $51.00 $0.00
114 Hennessy Babe 2em $51.00 $0.00
104 Mr Charm $101.00 $0.00

[Paddy]

WATC DERBY

Prices at: 07:49:28, 9 Apr 2004
No. Selection Win Place
106 Mr Sandgroper $3.25 $0.00
109 Fatal Attraction $3.25 $0.00
104 Laetare $9.00 $0.00
105 Magic Aces $9.00 $0.00
112 Pennywest $9.00 $0.00
107 Mystic Force $13.00 $0.00
100 Black Tom $15.00 $0.00
101 Chenille Prince $15.00 $0.00
114 Spirit Lady $21.00 $0.00
102 Crown Prosecutor $26.00 $0.00
108 Rockatansky $51.00 $0.00
111 Moonfire $51.00 $0.00
103 Just for Sam $101.00 $0.00
110 Kymtu $101.00 $0.00
113 Pentamerous $101.00 $0.00

[Paddy]

On 2004-04-09 01:18, Unlucky Phil wrote:
Hi Paddy

Not really into Perth races but Mr Sandgroper and Chenille Prince sounds like a good quinella to me.



Yep, should go close Unlucky Phil :wink:

Mr Sandgoper looks very good
Fatal Attraction might be still on the improve.
Laetare as honest as they come.
Black Tom will appreciate the distance.

[Paddy]

On 2004-04-09 02:58, partypooper wrote:
Paddy, I agree that Covertly looks VERY good, especially for the place (odds permitting) but can I ask your "expert" opinion about Field Commander in the last? as although it does not come up as a top rating, my gut feeling is that is was at the very least "inconvenienced" at the start (last start) to tell you the truth I couldn't believe it didn't run a place , but there you go??????


Glad you mentioned expert in quotes partypooper, for a minute there I thought you were talking to someone else :lol:

The last looks pretty open to me partypooper.
Smallish field & what looks to be pace assured will suit Field Commander.

Personally have a liking for Beau Pago.
Rogue's March might also lob up at outside odds.

[Legend18]

Providing the pace is on in the last, Field Commander will be suited and should probably win, as long as he isnt inconvenienced again. I'm liking the chances of Our Millster in the first.. other than Covertly could be my bet of the day

[partypooper]

Thanks Paddy and Legend,

Yes, that gives me confidence, but remember that I am a "Fruit Loop" hahahah!

[Chrome Prince]

This is how I'll be betting it...
<pre>
WATC DERBY
Fatal Attraction 20% win
Fatal Attraction 50% place
Chenille Prince 20% win
Spirit Lady 5% win
Spirit Lady 5% place
</pre>

Best of luck

[Paddy]

Prices at: 07:25:07, 10 Apr 2004
No. Selection Win Place
112 Covertly $3.60 $0.00
108 Redwoldt $4.00 $0.00
117 Refemme $5.25 $0.00
118 Stormy Nova $9.00 $0.00
101 Local Legend $11.00 $0.00
111 Wild Target $11.00 $0.00
103 Metaldale $13.00 $0.00
107 Price Regal $15.00 $0.00
109 The Black Cigar $26.00 $0.00
115 Lust for Dust $41.00 $0.00
102 Master Minx 3em $51.00 $0.00
105 My Leo $51.00 $0.00
106 Price Monger 1em $51.00 $0.00
113 Endesa $51.00 $0.00
114 Hennessy Babe 2em $51.00 $0.00
104 Mr Charm $101.00 $0.00

[Chenille Prince]

Race 1 no. 4 Noble Touch Great EW Bet!

[BettyBoop]

Nice one Chenille Prince! THANKS :smile:

[Paddy]

Bugger! Missed that one Chenille Prince. Thanks anyway :sad:

[Paddy]

06 HEALTHWAY-KARRAKATTA
PLT 2YO
1200 Metres
6:00pm
2ND LEG EXTRA DOUBLE


WIN/PLACE
1 4.20 1.70
5...............2.60
12...............1.90

QUINELLA (1-5) 22.80
EXACTA (1-5) 45.10
TRIFECTA
(1-5-12) 233.50
SPINNER (AOS-) 1.00
EXTRA DOUBLE (7-1) 101.20
SPECIAL DIV. (7-SCR) 14.40

(1) REDWOLDT (J.WHITING)
(5) METALDALE (P.CARBERY)
(12) REFEMME (P.KNUCKEY)

SCR - 2,6,13,14
17

Covertly missed a place :???:

[Paddy]

1- Field Commander $5.80 & $2.00
2- My Thornbird $2.50
8- Noroshi $3.80


Good onya partypooper :wink:

[Paddy]

Prices at: 15:03:39, 10 Apr 2004
No. Selection Win Place
002 Mr Sandgroper $3.25 $0.00
012 Fatal Attraction $3.25 $0.00
001 Laetare $9.00 $0.00
003 Magic Aces $9.00 $0.00
011 Pennywest $9.00 $0.00
006 Chenille Prince $11.00 $0.00
004 Mystic Force $13.00 $0.00
009 Black Tom $15.00 $0.00
010 Spirit Lady $21.00 $0.00
005 Crown Prosecutor $26.00 $0.00
007 Rockatansky $51.00 $0.00
014 Moonfire $51.00 $0.00
008 Just for Sam $101.00 $0.00
013 Kymtu $101.00 $0.00
015 Pentamerous $101.00 $0.00

[Chenille Prince]

Chenille Prince for the WATC Derby.

[Chenille Prince]

This is how I'll be betting it...


WATC DERBY

Chenille Prince 20% win

Chenille Prince 50% place

Mr Sandgroper 20% win

Black Tom 5% win

Black Tom 5% place


:grin:

[Chenille Prince]

On 2004-04-10 15:00, BettyBoop wrote:
Nice one Chenille Prince! THANKS :smile:



No worries Boop :wink:

[partypooper]

Paddy , hope you were on, but what TAB was that? as I got 8-1 best fluc. and even Supertab paid $7.40

Anyway isn't it great when it all works out how you planned??? I nearly wrote (in my post) that I reckon this is the best EW bet of the year so far but your words rang in my ears and I thought maybe I will have to eat mine!!! anyway it was sweet!

[Paddy]

NSW TAB partypooper.

[Paddy]

Prices at: 10:11:00, 11 Apr 2004
No. Selection Win Place
002 Mr Sandgroper $3.25 $0.00
012 Fatal Attraction $3.25 $0.00
001 Laetare $9.00 $0.00
003 Magic Aces $9.00 $0.00
011 Pennywest $9.00 $0.00
006 Chenille Prince $11.00 $0.00
004 Mystic Force $13.00 $0.00
009 Black Tom $15.00 $0.00
010 Spirit Lady $21.00 $0.00
005 Crown Prosecutor $26.00 $0.00
007 Rockatansky $51.00 $0.00
014 Moonfire $51.00 $0.00
008 Just for Sam $101.00 $0.00
013 Kymtu $101.00 $0.00
015 Pentamerous $101.00 $0.00

[Chrome Prince]

On 2004-04-10 02:45, Chrome Prince wrote:
This is how I'll be betting it...
<pre>
WATC DERBY
Fatal Attraction 20% win
Fatal Attraction 50% place
Chenille Prince 20% win
Spirit Lady 5% win
Spirit Lady 5% place
</pre>

Best of luck


Result using staking method:
Outlay 100
Return Fatal Attraction 105
Return Chenille Prince 0
Return Spirit Lady 0

Profit: 5

[Paddy]

06 W.A.T.C. 3YO DERBY

2400 Metres
5:40pm
2ND LEG EXTRA DOUBLE

WIN/PLACE
2 3.00 1.60
12.............1.80
3.............1.40
5.............7.40
SPINNER
(EVENS) 7.30

QUINELLA 5.70
EXACTA 13.80
TRIFECTA
(2-12-3) 54.40
(2-12-5) 212.50
FIRST4 1113.30
(2-12-3-5)
2785.00
(2-12-5-3)
EXTRA DOUBLE
(4 - 2) 37.50

( 2) MR SANDGROPER
(12) FATAL ATTRACTION
( 3) MAGIC ACES
( 5) CROWN PROSECUTOR
SCR - NIL

D/H FOR 3RD


Capped off a great long weekend!

[Paddy]

Glenn Smith just joined the list of suspended jocks. Serving 2 weeks for failing to fulfil riding engagement/s due to being excessively overweight. Easter chocs!? :eek:

[Sandgroper]

A jocks life can be tough enough as it is without that kind of suspension!

_________________
All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

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[Paddy]

Good to hear from you Perth Placegetter.
How's the punting over there in the sunny west? Nice win by Mr Sandgroper in the Derby.

[Sandgroper]

Can’t complain Paddy, the punting has been good, just chipping away.

Yes, good win by Mr Sandgroper, also nice run by Fatal Attraction.

As you probably observed Harvey followed King just about everywhere.

King elected to go wide (to make his run) before the turn while Harvey stuck to the fence (and got a dream run).

In the end I thought an appropriate result.

Notice you’ve had a bit of success of late. Good for you :wink:


_________________
All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-04-15 10:39 ]</font>

[Paddy]

Havin a ball Sandgroper :grin:

[Paddy]

Any tips from over the west?

[Paddy]

Well at least you didn't give me any losers :lol:

[Sandgroper]

Yes Paddy, we no doubt saved you a few bob :lol:

_________________
All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-04-18 11:29 ]</font>

[Paddy]

Shaun McGruddy returns from suspension from midnight tonight. I think one of the most underrated jocks in WA.

Daniel Staeck successfully appealed against a six-week suspension. Now that doesn't happen too often.

[Paddy]

Trainer S.J. Wolfe (that very sad SAVAGE CABBAGE affair) has been disqualified for a period of twelve months.

[Paddy]

Coming up, 8th May, grand opening date of the Belmont Park Racecourse Winter Racing Season.

[Sandgroper]

On 2004-04-20 09:13, Paddy wrote:
Trainer S.J. Wolfe (that very sad SAVAGE CABBAGE affair) has been disqualified for a period of twelve months.



Actually Paddy, trainer Steve Wolfe had a two-year disqualification cut to 12 months yesterday when stewards completed rehearing an inquiry into the barrier trial fall of Savage Cabbage.

Wolfe had received the two-year disqualification in December 2002.

Reports are that Wolfe is not happy with result and will likely take the case to the Supreme Court and apply to retain a stay of proceedings to continue training in the meantime.


_________________
All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-04-20 09:48 ]</font>

[Sandgroper]

On 2004-04-20 09:15, Paddy wrote:
Coming up, 8th May, grand opening date of the Belmont Park Racecourse Winter Racing Season.



Yes, shortly back to Belmont Paddy and looking forward to it :wink:

_________________
All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-04-20 09:54 ]</font>

[Paddy]

I note that Steve Wolfe has just had an interim stay of proceedings granted by the Racing Penalties Appeal Tribunal, which allows him to keep on training.

Wolfe had been previously training on a stay of proceedings for nearly 12 months.

[Paddy]

W.A. SIRES' PRODUCE STAKES - 1400M

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barr Wgt Pen
1 REDWOLDT Lou Luciani J S Whiting 1 56
2 METALDALE Fred Kersley P J Carbery 6 56
3 LOCAL LEGEND J W Price W A Pike (a) 9 56
4 THE BLACK CIGAR D Thom S L O'Donnell 11 56
5 PRICE MONGER J C Byrne T K Turner 3 56
6 PLASTERED Lindsey Smith P J Harvey 10 56
7 DESOLATOR M J Midgley S F Mc Gruddy 2 56
8 MASTER MINX R C Mc Pherson J F Miller 5 56
9 REFEMME G E Daly P D Knuckey 7 53.5
10 COVERTLY S R Bates P King 8 53.5
11 LUST FOR DUST P D Tapper D J Staeck 4 53.5

[Paddy]

Early Market

REDWOLDT $2.60
COVERTLY $4.40
REFEMME $6.50
METALDALE $7.00
PLASTERED $7.50
THE BLACK CIGAR $10.00
LOCAL LEGEND $16.00
LUST FOR DUST $26.00
PRICE MONGER $35.00
MASTER MINX $51.00
DESOLATOR $101.00

[Paddy]

Now let’s see. Harvey has hopped off Covertly to ride Plastered. Plastered has had one start for a narrow win at Pinjarra Park. Paul King has hopped off Local Legend to ride Covertly. Willie Pike now rides Local Legend.


After all that have to think REDWOLDT will take out the double. Strong win in the Karrakatta and even better suited by this distance.

METALDALE should make the quinella again. Finished the race off well in the Karrakatta, extra distance should not trouble.

COVERTLY a bit disappointing in the Karrakatta should be better suited at the 1400M.


Like the way THE BLACK CIGAR got to the line in the Karrakatta. Put him in for 4th.


Will also include in the multiples, Refemme as honest as they come but might find the 1400M a bit too far on the day against this lot, and Harvey's mount Plastered, must have shown Harvey something.

[partypooper]

Paddy I know you like Covertly, like I did,.... mmmm, at this stage I'm tempted to stick with it, but will make a definite decison tomorrow.

[Paddy]

Prices at: 18:11:11, 23 Apr 2004
No. Selection Win Place
001 Redwoldt $2.35 $0.00
002 Metaldale $6.00 $0.00
009 Refemme $6.00 $0.00
010 Covertly $6.00 $0.00
003 Local Legend $9.00 $0.00
006 Plastered $11.00 $0.00
004 The Black Cigar $17.00 $0.00
005 Price Monger $26.00 $0.00
011 Lust for Dust $26.00 $0.00
007 Desolator $101.00 $0.00
008 Master Minx $101.00 $0.00

[william]

LUST FOR DUST

WILL

[MyHatMyCoat]

R1 MAGIC PASS & SHAKE YOUR BON BON (Value TWIN CITY GIRL)
R2 PRINCE OF VASAC & SABRE CHIEF (Value - GIVE ME A CHANCE)
R3 EXCHEQUER & MY THORNBIRD (Value KING ELVIS)
R4 CROWN PROSECUTOR & MAGIC ACES (Value PENTAMEROUS)
R5 JARNOT & MR TAMBOURINEMAN (Value QUASAROCK)
R6 ON TARGET & AIR POCKET (Value OLEANDER)
R7 REDWOLDT & COVERTLY (Value PLASTERED)
R8 ROSE OF THUNDER & PURE EXCITEMENT (Value CRAIGAVAD)

[partypooper]

IF Covertly is 5/1 I will definitly stick with it with 1x2 betting strategy, what about you Paddy?

[MyHatMyCoat]

NARROGIN CUP - 1880M

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barr Wgt Pen
1 SPECIAL JESTER S J Wolfe D A O'Heare 11 57
2 PLEA BARGAIN G F Durrant R Caddies (a2) 9 56.5
3 WARNING TUNE C M Wolfe L A Robertson 2 55
4 DE LA HOYA M Storer W A Pike (a0) 8 53.5
5 DOM SEBASTIAN J G Parker Ms A D Sansom 10 53.5
6 MILLER'S FANCY B R Thomas J F Miller 14 53.5
7 IRON MONGER Mrs A J Smith T K Turner 7 53
8 PARTY BOY Mark Bairstow Ms B Mathieson 12 53
9 REPRIME D L Casey J Nizam (a3) 13 53
10 ROGUE'S MARCH M H Hockey D Luciani (a2) 3 53
11E NOBLE SHEIKH Neville Parnham A Fiezan (a3) 1 53
12E CO STRIKER B M Carpenter S F Mc Gruddy 6 53
13E CYCLONE SNIP M M Sheridan Ms L T Howlett 5 53
14E NICANTIQUE M K Solly 4 53


Not much confidence but here goes:-

ROGUES MARCH, PLEA BARGAIN, DE LA HOYA & PARTY BOY

[Paddy]

Prices at: 09:55:21, 24 Apr 2004
No. Selection Win Place
001 Redwoldt $2.35 $0.00
002 Metaldale $6.00 $0.00
009 Refemme $6.00 $0.00
010 Covertly $6.00 $0.00
003 Local Legend $9.00 $0.00
006 Plastered $11.00 $0.00
004 The Black Cigar $17.00 $0.00
005 Price Monger $26.00 $0.00
011 Lust for Dust $26.00 $0.00
007 Desolator $101.00 $0.00
008 Master Minx $101.00 $0.00