Hi Crash
Take your points----Good thoughts---There is not a simple solution to this tipping comp.
Im sure you and Umrum will come up with the goods.
Have a good day and back plenty off winners :smile:

Will


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Ok guys. OUr problem is to keep it simple but still reward courageous or astute tipping as mentioned by crash. It does seem unfair to get the same points for lonhro(4/6)as Tumeric(50/1). The $50 is simple enough. I propose

* 5 operating races on a saturday
* any state, any meeting
* win only
* can have multiple runners in a race but must be win only i.e Lonhro 5 wins, freemason 3 wins, Clangalang 2 wins.
* $50 dollars max for day
* $10 dollars max for race
* hopefully comp will start saturday
* ending the last day of autumn carnival(randwick)

other ideas
a best bet system where perhaps your stake will be doubled for that one race. So lonhro backers will get double stake at 1.70 so their still isn't a disadvantage to longshot backers. I'm not sure about that one yet. Look forward to comment.

cheers
umrum

To these selected rules mentioned by Umrum:

* 5 operating races on a Saturday
* any state, any meeting
* win only
* can have multiple runners in a race but must be win only i.e Lonhro 5 wins, freemason 3 wins, Clangalang 2 wins.
* $50 dollars max for day

I would add :

* A nominated best bet of $20 allowed with $10 each on 3 other races [ covers the best bet $20 idea ].
* late scratchings amount added to next weeks betting amount.
* Uni-tab prices
* missed weeks from comp. = minus $50 per week if more than one week in a row [covers the odd unavoidable absence].
* Start date Sat. 21.2.04

Everyone happy ?

Cheers.

PS. Turmeric's next start is his second up from a spell and we all know what happened on his last second up start !!!


[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-20 08:08 ]

ok sounds good.

Just clarifying is the best bet $20 optional. So you can have 4 races with a $20 best bet and three $10 bets(50 total) or 5 x $10 bets(50 total)

Hi Umrum,

Best bet optional and as you just described.

It all sounds OK. We'll kick it off for Sat. with the rules on the first post.

May the horse be with you !

Cheers.

Hey guys sounds great and you have pretty muc answered any qustions I was going to post this morning but ran out of time before I had to leave for work.

As far as a point system goes if you wanted to do say just a tipping comp the only way you could do it fairly would be to add say a bonus point for every $10 the winner paid in other words if something paid $20 then you would get the normal 3 points plus an extra 2 for the bonus. It wouldn't be the easiest thing to keep track of though and could turn out to be very time consuming.

While I am at it if you were to do just a tipping comp you could also give say 2 points for 2nd and 1 point for 3rd no bonuses there if they don't win then bad luck.

[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2004-02-21 00:11 ]

The tipping comp sounds like a great idea but the rules should be implemented in black and white for everyone to agree and read so there are no discrepancies. If others can join in i would gladly like to be in.

I will be in it if the rules are clear....i like the T.O.P idea for the points highest for the day gets 3 points and so on

Hi all,

The problems of a point system have been covered and a wild card as well as a best bet would only add complexity and possible confusion.

This comp. like the last one does not stop any tipping activity in other threads. Indeed, I think it only had 3 or 4 members still in at the finish last time. The comp. was won by William.

The rules posted here are based on the last comp. for reasons of familiarity. The betting is now even simpler by having a win bets only rule. A small number of additional rules have been added to address a couple of areas of fairness that came up.

Cheers.

[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-19 08:05 ]